My problem is

I assume that you are sure of your answer , and its from the bible , cuz I'll keep asking

for me, the simplest way to understand this lays in a parable of sorts:

a farmer was sitting next to his wood stove one winter night, nice and toasty. he looks outside into a nasty blizzard and sees these two little sparrows. they are freezing to death. disheartened by this, the man trudges out into cold and opens the door to his barn hoping the birds would find reprieve from death. but as soon as he came out side the birds were frightened by the sight of him and tried to fly away. the farmer tried again and again to shew the freezing birds into the barn. frustrated, the farmer thought, "if only i were a bird! i would show them the way to safety!".

and thats why Father God came to earth as Jesus Christ. God, in man's form, could show us the way to salvation from the storm.

hello Andreha
how it can be , jesus is iqually to god but he is son of god ? This thing really confuse me
if i told my teacher that 3 = 1 he will give me 0 .
1=1 and 3=3
the 3 can't be 1
it's wether 3 gods or 1 god
an example : a big company owned by 3 twins look alike . you'll say (they) are (partners) . But if the same company were owned to just one , you'll say (he) is (great owner)

in the Islam forum they told me there is only one God , this is less complicated

what is the holy spirit , what does it look like ?

Thanx again bro.

OP:

I agree with her post there about the freedom, personal relationship with God, and the love that is God which shines through Jesus Christ. It is an excellent post.


On the trinity and on "the difference", I will elaborate, also being somewhat familiar with Islam.

There are countless religions in the world. Truth be told - and some Christians will not like this, but it is true - there is some truth in most of these religions.

But, in Jesus we find the full truth and that in the Way to God, which is through the rebirth of the Spirit by grace working in faith.

That is Jesus has the Spirit of God in all fullness, being the perfect man, and through the rebirth of the spirit we are made full children of God. This process is as designed from before creation.


So, it is not by the spirit of Moses, nor Elijah, nor Buddha, nor Socrates, nor anyone else one might be born again: Jesus alone comes from Heaven, and Jesus alone can bring people to Heaven, that is, to God... being both fully God and fully man.


The "trinity" concept is true, but also limited and can be confusing to some people... they can resist it based on their idea that God is distant and should remain distant, and that God can not possibly become a man. But, this misunderstands the basic concept of God, and also tends to be deep hypocrisy for many of these other religions act as though they are God in their decisions, in their words, and in their deeds.

First important thing to remember here is: "God alone is good".

If, then, God alone is good, how can anyone else ever do any good whatsoever and therefore please God?

It is absolutely impossible, in fact, it is blasphemy, and this is the very "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" Jesus was speaking of.

(It is not forgivable, for it is the one sin which can not be forgiven... not because it is something "so bad", but simply because it is not a matter to be forgiven. It is a matter to be changed by the rebirth of the soul in the faith, through the Holy Spirit.)


Again: Only God is good. Absolute truth.


What is ironic are many sects and religions which come forth from Abraham - in one way or the other, true or false - understand and believe, or rather, "know" God alone is good. Yet, they do not act this way.

They act as though they can actually do and say good apart from God.



They can not.


In Christianity, we do and say good not apart from God, nor even from our own selves, but the Spirit of God lives in us and through the Spirit of God we are given deeds and words.

This is also clear from Scripture. All of the good deeds and words from the Prophets and Apostles were not from their own power or spirit, nor from their flesh, but from the Spirit of God moving through them.


There is literally no other way.



"Trinity", useful shortcut doctrine, but there is more to the whole matter then just "three", for all are called to be true children of God, the loving eternal Father who made us all.


We were made imperfect, for this very reason. We are as characters in a Book the Lord God has written, and His intention from the very beginning was to make us truly alive -- not just characters on a page.


We are as Pinnochio, I hate to say, but it is an awesome story... not real, but created... and we long to be "something more", to become "a real boy", or person.


(And that is why that story and stories like it have such enduring popularity, because of the deep truths it touches, so even children might recall how it is we are all called to something much greater then just what we see with our eyes and hear with our ears in this world.)


Hope that helps.

Let me know if it does.

I don't know if someone has answered this yet but what they are referring to is the trinity. The way I like to look at it is God as a hair product. Like if you see a hair product that has shampoo, conditioner, and body wash in one container its like 3 uses in one container. If that makes sense? lol I hope I didn't confuse you more.

but as u c bro , the shampoo can never do what the body wash do , niether the conditioner can do what the shampoo do
and that means the father can not do what the son do, niether the holy spirit

so ?
Lol I hope you are not the confused one

God does not want us to be confused nor does Jesus here is a conversation Jesus had with one Nicodemus

Jhn 3:1 ¶ There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

Jhn 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

Jhn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Jhn 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Jhn 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Jhn 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Jhn 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Jhn 3:9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

Jhn 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

Jhn 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

Jhn 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things?

Jesus said that unless you are born from above/born again you can not even see the Kingdom of Heaven. So we must first be born from above by the Spirit, we cannot understand without the Spirit. Before I was born from above the Bible was a locked book, I would try to read it and it didn't get through to my heart, sure I could understand the words, but they didn't change me. After I trusted Jesus and his work of the cross, my redemtion, I began to see and understand in ways I never could before.

As for me and my house we believe that the Holy Bible is the written word of God and once the Holy Spirit is come upon and hovered over me and planted God's dna within me by the very faith of Jesus a gift given as seed when we are born from above, we are able to see the Kingdom of Heaven and have God revealed. As God is revealed through the written word, by the power of the one who comes along side as a counselor, the Holy Spirit, he opens up our new life and spirit so that we begin to understand the mystery of life, Christ in us the Hope of Glory. Praise Almighty God for mighty are His works.

one man set free,
jeffrey