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Originally Posted by AvgJoe View Post
Jesus Christ is most definitely God. He created Adam and Eve, the first man and woman, in his image. He is the Creator of the universe. The Bible says, “Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made” (John 1:3). This includes all the Stars, all the original animals and plants, and even the angels (Colossians 1:15-17).

It is important not be confused. God did not create Jesus. Jesus is God, and he has always existed.

Jesus proved that he is God by doing many things that only God could do. These are called miracles. He made dead people alive. He walked across a great lake. He made blind eyes see perfectly again. He healed deadly diseases with a word.

The exciting truth is that Jesus is now also a man, and will remian so for all eternity. He humbled Himself to become like one of his own creations. He chose to become a man to help us in an extremely important way. This amazing event happened about 2-thousand years ago. The results have changed the world forever.

The part of God that is called the Holy Spirit created God's human body inside of a woman named Mary (Matthew 1:20). God went into this human body that grew inside of Mary. The baby was born and grew into a man.

At various times in the past, Jesus had appeared to people in human form. One example is when he appeared to Abraham just before the judgment of the evil cities of Sodom and Gomorrah. But now, for the first time in history, God did not simply appear as man, he became fully human. Yet, he is still God. He is both God and man.

One huge difference between this man and every other man and woman, or boy and girl, is that Jesus was (and still is) sinless. We humans are full of sin. We sin every day. Jesus never did anything wrong, not even once. No matter what temptations came to him, he refused to sin. He has always remained pure and perfect.

Isn't it amazing to think about?! Our Creator walked among us. Like us, our Almighty God smelled the flowers and touched the animals that he had created. He loved boys and girls.

As a man, God experienced the same temptations that we feel (Hebrews 2:18). He suffered the same kind of physical pains that we suffer with. He also experienced emotional pain. He even wept about the city of Jerusalem (John 11:35). He was ignored, unappreciated, unloved, misunderstood, and even despised—even though he did nothing wrong, and always loved everyone (1 Peter 2:23). Not only is Jesus Christ the greatest man that ever lived; he is our Creator. He deserved all glory and honor!

Have you heard what people did to him? It was horribly painful and terribly unjust. They crucified Him.

He had the power to stop their torture and taunting at any time. His power is awesome beyond anything we can understand. Yet, he did not defend himself. He let himself be like a perfect, innocent little lamb that hurt no one, and was sacrificed for the sins of the people.

He did this for us, because he loves us. Only he could pay the price for our sins. Only he could save us from the punishment we deserve. He suffered for us (1 Peter 2:21; 3:18; 4:1).

Today, he lives in Heaven and works to help us (Romans 8:34). The Bible tells us that one day he will return to earth to become the rightful king of the entire world. That will be a most wonderful time! Finally, we will have a leader that is good and wise in every way. The earth will be filled with God's glory and justice. Life on this planet will become so much better. Even the dangerous animals will become harmless (the wolf will lie down with the lamb) (Isaiah 11:6).

Is Jesus Christ God or man? The amazing answer is BOTH; he is God and man.

Why did God become a man?


God did this wonderful thing for various reasons, including:
  1. To fulfill the prophecies of God's Word
  2. To satisfy the law, paying for all who are guilty of sin (Isaiah 53; Hebrews 9:12, 15). By his sacrifice, he purchased the right to give us salvation.
  3. To show us an example of how to live, and to tell us important stories face-to-face.
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thank you alot brother

I have many questions for now ,
1.If jesus the son and god created Adams What Father the god was doing ?
2. Since jesus has this power why did he need to be born by a woman ? I mean why didn't he just changed to a man without being borned?
Don't you think that we still talking about three and not one?
3.do you mean who make a miracle he is a GOD?
4.Through (him) all things were made...accurding to this verse , Is bible word of GOD ?

These is my questions till now

thank you alot darling
I appreciate your kindness
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Old 15th September 2009, 12:22 AM
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Jesus and what He taught, either the Father has enabled you to believe Him, or not. You should read the Gospels and see for yourself.

I can testify there is not another person on the planet I envy, so happy am I in the Christian faith. Not even across the full span of history.

Most people I feel real sorry for and wish they could know the joy I know.


How does one express such things in one's heart.

It is unseen... requires faith enabled by God to see and believe.
I'm wishing you happiness forever and for always

and I'm happy either , to be right here with such nice ppl like u

thanx alot
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In a word: No. God is three Persons. A person does not require a body. If he did, you'd be extinguished the moment you die. And yet Jesus repudiated that Himself: "But that the dead are raised, even Moses showed, in the passage about the bush, where he calls the Lord the God of Abraham and the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob.Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living, for all live to him." Lk 20:37-38

There is no limit on the number of persons in God.

There is a limit on the number of persons in a human being.
The Father is God -- John 6:27, 8:54
The Son is God -- John 1:1, 10:30, 20:28-29
The Spirit is God -- John 4:24, 1 Cor 2:11-12, 1 Cor 3:16
How did we knew all these things about jesus and christianity ?

Is it bible ? Is bible holy book?
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I'm wishing you happiness forever and for always

and I'm happy either , to be right here with such nice ppl like u

thanx alot

That's awesome, bud. Now's a good time to stay up, and not go down.
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Jesus is God because he share nature of god , and in every way like god

right ?
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Something like that, but not "like God", he is God, he is God made flesh.

One of the things that makes Christianity unique is that it isn't about rules, what you can and can't do. It's about a personal relationship - made through grace and love. Because of that love we try to follow the guidelines set for us through the Bible but if we fall off the path then that is not the end for us. We have the hope of forgiveness.
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thanx , but just give me one good reason to choose christianity
God gave us a brain to think
not just to follow
Let me jump in here although it is my first post in the new christian section. We are separated from God because of our sins. The only way the one and only holy true just God can accept us is if our sins are removed. Why? Because since God is totally pure and totally just, if sin is in His presence the sin will be destroyed. Thus we need a way to remove the sins.

Now, Christ was the chosen one to take on our sins for us so we can be pure and blameless in God's eyes. How Christ did this was:
1) He was born of a virgin
2) He lived a sinless life.
3) He was crucified for our sins on the cross.
4) He died for our sins.
5) He rose from the dead to conquer death, hell and the grave.
6) He ascended to heaven and is seated at the right hand of God.
7) He intercedes for Christians to God.
8) He is coming back a 2nd time to be the ruler of this world and take Christian to heaven.

Now, if Christ isn't in ones life to be the ransom for their sins, how can you have your sins removed? Also, if you view it as doing "good works", how do you know when you have enough "good works" to out weight your sins?

Bottom line is we can never have enough "good works" to save us because once sin is in our lives, we can't remove it. If we can't remove it, God can't accept us. And, since we can't remove it, God provided a way which is through Jesus Christ to remove our sins.

The bible states Christ words: "I am THE WAY, and THE TRUTH, and THE LIFE and no one goes to the Father except THOUGH ME."

These are the words of Jesus. He made it very clear here that He is the only way to God. The scriptures also state that there is only one mediator between God and man, and it is the Lord Jesus Christ.

I am not saying that muslims are not seeking earnestly after God. The bottom line is what do you do with Jesus? If we say he is just a "good teacher" or "another prophet," then we are still dead in our sins. If we say that "Jesus is the messiah, the Son of God whom takes away sins and saves," then we have a high priest that removes our sins and makes us clean in God's eyes.

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Also on the trinity, this is how I understand it.

I am one person. Yet, I am my parents son and I am my siblings brother and I am also my wife's husband. Now I am still one person, but I am three different persons to each of these people.
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Originally Posted by Aibrean View Post
Something like that, but not "like God", he is God, he is God made flesh.

One of the things that makes Christianity unique is that it isn't about rules, what you can and can't do. It's about a personal relationship - made through grace and love. Because of that love we try to follow the guidelines set for us through the Bible but if we fall off the path then that is not the end for us. We have the hope of forgiveness.
I assume that you are sure of your answer , and its from the bible , cuz I'll keep asking
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Yes. The trinity is implied very frequently.

When Jesus is tested in the wilderness by Satan he clearly says "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test." He doesn't say "do not put the son of God".

Also Jesus says
Holy Father, protect them by the power of your namethe name you gave me—so that they may be one as we are one.
Everything in quotes below is straight from different verses in the Bible.

On the Law

...a man is not justified by observing the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have put our faith in Christ Jesus that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by observing the law, because by observing the law no one will be justified."If, while we seek to be justified in Christ, it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners, does that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! If I rebuild what I destroyed, I prove that I am a lawbreaker. For through the law I died to the law so that I might live for God. I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me. I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!
Goods works is a result of our faith
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
But if anyone obeys his word, God's love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.
Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the "stumbling stone."
On the relationship with Christ
God, who has called you into fellowship with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, is faithful.
I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith.
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus
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1 Peter 5:8-9
Be sober, be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking some one to devour. Resist him, firm in your faith, knowing that the same experience of suffering is required of your brotherhood throughout the world.

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