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Old 4th September 2009, 02:20 AM
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Nations of the world must listen to the Catholic Church, says Tony Blair

Rimini, Italy, August 31 (CNA) .- Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who converted to the Catholic faith a few years ago, addressed participants at the Rimini Meeting in Italy, saying, "The voice of the Church should be heard" and "it should speak confidently, clearly and openly."
During his speech the former Prime Minister underscored, "Faith and reason are in alliance, not opposition," and that therefore "the Church can be the insistent spiritual voice that makes globalization our servant not our master."

After praising the Church's untiring social work, Blair went on to say, "There is not just room, but a growing space today for organizations of civic society to step forward and do things that neither market nor state can do."

Blair said his conversion to the Catholic faith was due in part to his wife Cherie. "I began to go to Mass and we went together. We could have gone to the Anglican or Catholic church – guess who won?" he joked.
"As time went on, I had been going to Mass for a long time ... it's difficult to find the right words. I felt this was right for me. There was something, not just about the doctrine of the Church, but of the universal nature of the Catholic Church," Tony Blair said.

Despite these words, Blair and his wife maintain positions on contraception and gay unions that are contrary to the Church's teachings.

Zep 1:11 Howl, ye inhabitants of Maktesh, forall the merchant people are cut down; all they that bear silver are cut off. Zep 1:12 And it shall come to pass at thattime, [that] I will search Jerusalem with candles, and punish the men that aresettled on their lees: that say in their heart, The LORD will not do good,neither will he do evil.
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Old 4th September 2009, 02:56 AM
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Rimini, Italy, August 31 (CNA) .- Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who converted to the Catholic faith a few years ago, addressed participants at the Rimini Meeting in Italy, saying, "The voice of the Church should be heard" and "it should speak confidently, clearly and openly."
During his speech the former Prime Minister underscored, "Faith and reason are in alliance, not opposition," and that therefore "the Church can be the insistent spiritual voice that makes globalization our servant not our master."

After praising the Church's untiring social work, Blair went on to say, "There is not just room, but a growing space today for organizations of civic society to step forward and do things that neither market nor state can do."

Blair said his conversion to the Catholic faith was due in part to his wife Cherie. "I began to go to Mass and we went together. We could have gone to the Anglican or Catholic church – guess who won?" he joked.
"As time went on, I had been going to Mass for a long time ... it's difficult to find the right words. I felt this was right for me. There was something, not just about the doctrine of the Church, but of the universal nature of the Catholic Church," Tony Blair said.

Despite these words, Blair and his wife maintain positions on contraception and gay unions that are contrary to the Church's teachings.

Zep 1:11 Howl, ye inhabitants of Maktesh, forall the merchant people are cut down; all they that bear silver are cut off. Zep 1:12 And it shall come to pass at thattime, [that] I will search Jerusalem with candles, and punish the men that aresettled on their lees: that say in their heart, The LORD will not do good,neither will he do evil.
False appeal to authority.

So he's not a good Catholic but I'm sure that all who are SDA are perfect.
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Old 4th September 2009, 03:06 AM
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The One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church is the Mother of ur denomination too. Whether u like it or not.
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Originally Posted by lionroar0 View Post
The One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church is the Mother of ur denomination too. Whether u like it or not.
Sorry bud, its not. Im not even a part of any denomination, nor do I attend a church. If I rebel against Rome, its not in charge of me. Simple as that.
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Sorry bud, its not. Im not even a part of any denomination, nor do I attend a church. If I rebel against Rome, its not in charge of me. Simple as that.
non-denomiational is a domination. Just a denomiantion of one.

You do know that a Church is the people not the building?

Even if U met in a small group in a house you are still a member of a church.
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Originally Posted by lionroar0 View Post
non-denomiational is a domination. Just a denomiantion of one.

You do know that a Church is the people not the building?

Even if U met in a small group in a house you are still a member of a church.
Yes, you would be right, but most people use the word Church in the way that I used it. I am not a part of Rome and Rome is not part of me.
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Strange. I was wondering where he would go if he did not listen to the Catholic church?
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Strange. I was wondering where he would go if he did not listen to the Catholic church?
ummm 7-11 For a slurpee.

The Catholic Church says that salvation comes through Jesus Christ.

If one does not believe in that one may go to hell.
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ummm 7-11 For a slurpee.

The Catholic Church says that salvation comes through Jesus Christ.

If one does not believe in that one may go to hell.
Scripture says that salvation is in Christ. For He is the way the truth and the life.
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Yes, you would be right, but most people use the word Church in the way that I used it. I am not a part of Rome and Rome is not part of me.

Yes, you would be right, but most people use the word Church in the way that I used it
We don't in my Catholic Church.

I am not a part of Rome and Rome is not part of me
Rome is a part of you whether you like it or not. Well actually the Catholic Church is part of you. That will never go away no matter how much u deny it.

I think you never attended a mass but instead went to another Church got a good hosing of lies about the Church.
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