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3rd September 2009, 08:15 PM
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IF IT WOULD REDUCE THE OVERALL NUMBER OF ABORTIONS, WHAT COMPROMISES WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO MAKE. For example, if you call yourself pro-choice, would you agree to a waiting period? If you call yourself pro-life would you agree to make birth control more available. No matter what you call yourself, would you agree that better health care should be available for pregnant women and would you be willing to pay higher taxes for it?
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3rd September 2009, 11:45 PM
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I'm prochoice....I don't mind being called pro abortion since I think abortions can be blessings to women in certain situations. Where is my compromise? Late term accept in cases of maternal health.(possibly fetal health if it could lead to major complications for the woman) I understand restricting late term abortions. I could compromise there.
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4th September 2009, 07:10 PM
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The other compromise I would make is restricting late term abortions (after viability), with exceptions for the health/life of the mother, or severe fetal abnormality that is incompatible with life. What qualifies as a health/life risk is to be determined by the woman and her doctor/PA/advanced nurse and no one else.
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8th September 2009, 09:55 AM
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What about those who call themselves pro-life? What compromises would you be willing to make if such compromise would reduce the number of abortions, or are you unwilling to compromsie? | 
12th September 2009, 07:39 PM
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After all, it is a Gospel of compromise right? I mean, that's what Christ came and taught, right? Kind of a 'can't we all get along' type of thing, right?
I'm pro-choice, too. I'm all for choosing to keep your pants zipped.
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13th September 2009, 02:17 PM
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Reps: 233,147,813,510,988,768 (power: 233,147,813,511,065) | | Originally Posted by b.hopeful Good luck with a respectable discussion on this,lol. I do applaud the effort and support the effort.
I'm prochoice....I don't mind being called pro abortion since I think abortions can be blessings to women in certain situations. Where is my compromise? Late term accept in cases of maternal health.(possibly fetal health if it could lead to major complications for the woman) I understand restricting late term abortions. I could compromise there.
I agree with this post except for the compromise part. I am unwilling to compromise. I don't see abortion as a sin and I don't think there should be any restrictions on abortion. Originally Posted by NDNgirl4ever I'm pro-choice, and I would love to see better healthcare for pregnant women and children. The whole reason that I plan on becoming a nurse midwife is to help improve that.
The other compromise I would make is restricting late term abortions (after viability), with exceptions for the health/life of the mother, or severe fetal abnormality that is incompatible with life. What qualifies as a health/life risk is to be determined by the woman and her doctor/PA/advanced nurse and no one else.
Again, I agree with this post. I would also love to see better healthcare for pregnant women and children. However, I am not willing to compromise. I do not wish to see any restrictions on abortion at all. Originally Posted by Archivist I agree with what has been said regarding late-term abortions.
What about those who call themselves pro-life? What compromises would you be willing to make if such compromise would reduce the number of abortions, or are you unwilling to compromsie?
Well, I'm not pro-life so I guess I don't really have much to say on this post. In fact, some would call me pro-abortion (and rightfully so) because I feel that abortion can be the best thing in the world for a woman and for society at times. Originally Posted by icamewithasword Well, I guess I probably could compromise....
After all, it is a Gospel of compromise right? I mean, that's what Christ came and taught, right? Kind of a 'can't we all get along' type of thing, right?
I'm pro-choice, too. I'm all for choosing to keep your pants zipped.
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13th September 2009, 02:24 PM
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I will never compromise.
Sorry, it's not about you; but that's where I stand and I will not back down. Ever.
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13th September 2009, 06:51 PM
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Reps: 48,069,302,560,995,600 (power: 48,069,302,561,006) | | Originally Posted by icamewithasword Well, I guess I probably could compromise....
After all, it is a Gospel of compromise right? I mean, that's what Christ came and taught, right? Kind of a 'can't we all get along' type of thing, right?
I'm pro-choice, too. I'm all for choosing to keep your pants zipped. Originally Posted by judechild I'm pro-life.
I will never compromise.
Sorry, it's not about you; but that's where I stand and I will not back down. Ever.
So being right--at least right according to your own beliefs--is more impotant to you than reducing the number of abortions? Very sad... | 
14th September 2009, 11:27 PM
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Reps: 29,076,752,156,125 (power: 29,076,752,159) | | Originally Posted by Archivist So being right--at least right according to your own beliefs--is more impotant to you than reducing the number of abortions? Very sad...
I'm all about reducing the number of abortions! Where in my post did I state something that made you think otherwise?
If my sarcasm confused you, then I'll restate .....
Christianity is NOT a Gospel of compromise! Christ did not come in order for men to get along, nor to express that each individual's 'take' on God's Gospel is something to be molded into whatever you're comfortable with.
It is a strategy of the Enemy to suggest that beliefs and convictions should be compromised in order for peace to be found between TRUTH and BELIEF.
Pro-choice and Christian should never be used together in the same sentence, unless preceeded with 'repentant'. In this, there is no compromise.
When ya'll have this sorted out, let's find compromise within adultery, fornication, murder, abominations, liars...... that way we can all (in our Christian liberty) feel better about the lake of fire; or actualy we can just deny it exsits..... Sorry for being sarcastic again.
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17th September 2009, 09:46 PM
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Reps: 233,147,813,510,988,768 (power: 233,147,813,511,065) | | Originally Posted by judechild I'm pro-life.
I will never compromise.
Sorry, it's not about you; but that's where I stand and I will not back down. Ever.
I agree Judechild. I am also pro-life and I will never compromise. This is where I stand and I will not back down. All abortions need to be illegal! |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |