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6th November 2009, 06:39 PM
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Reps: 18,762,294,747,481,268 (power: 18,762,294,747,485) | | Originally Posted by Tanakh  The Qur'an is not in accordance with the Tanakh and that alone voids the truth in Islam. The "age of prophecy" ended 800 years before Islam was "founded". The Qur'an completely takes the Torah out of context, on purpose I presume, so that Muhammad could say the he is the "last and thus true prophet". Both the Gospels and the Qur'an go against nearly everything the Tanakh says and thus stands for. One does not need to believe but at least know that one must go to the source (Judaism) of Monotheism if one is to truly understand G-d.
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Secular Israel will one day fall but Israel, the Biblical nation, will be renewed and will crush its opponents. I understand why secularists hate religion, they feel that others are dragging them into a fight they did not create and do not want continued. In this I say to the world that if you do not support Israel on religious grounds (meaning against it because it is a "religious war") then support Israel on the basis of History. Israel's fight with Islam will determine its future and the worlds relation to its past. One may not like Israel but do NOT support the "Palestininas" on the sole basis that they are our enemies, the "if Israel is wrong then they must be right" mentality is pure stupidity.
Fact:
There has NEVER been an independent nation in history called "Palestine" and hence there is no such thing as "Palestinians". Their flag and cause represents evil and must be opposed. "Palestine" is a self-inflicted curse on history and is in opposition to morality, period. If one wonders what "Palestine" really is then simply look to Hamas and you will have your answer. G-d, in Genesis, makes clear that the land of Israel is for "His people", the Jews, for all time and nothing can remove that fact no matter how hard the world may try. Israel is G-d in history and therefore must be defended against evil, which is sadly promoted by His creation.
Yis'rael Chai!
DEATH TO "PALESTINE"!!!
Palestinians are the real Hebrews, so if there is such nation of Israel that exists it will be by Palestinians not converts from Europe.
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6th November 2009, 06:41 PM
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Reps: 272,822,209,319,755 (power: 0) | | | As zoroastrian i can only look with deep disgust on the behavior of the jews in Israel.
Luckily there will be no Israel in around 25 years, because at that point the arabs will overtake it with higher birthrates.
I hope the palestinians show mercy... |
6th November 2009, 06:46 PM
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Reps: 18,762,294,747,481,268 (power: 18,762,294,747,485) | | Originally Posted by Ardeshir As zoroastrian i can only look with deep disgust on the behavior of the jews in Israel.
Luckily there will be no Israel in around 25 years, because at that point the arabs will overtake it with higher birthrates.
I hope the palestinians show mercy...
we don't need higher birthrates, even the Jews make lots of children, what we need is a real Muslim leader with guts just like the Kurdish Sultan Salah al-Deen, I don't care if he's an Arab or not.
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6th November 2009, 06:52 PM
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Reps: 272,822,209,319,755 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by formy we don't need higher birthrates, even the Jews make lots of children, what we need is a real Muslim leader with guts just like the Kurdish Sultan Salah al-Deen, I don't care if he's an Arab or not.
How did you sunni arabs feel, as Hezbollah crushed the IDF in 2006 with iranian help?
I know many sunni arabs who donīt like us, but gave iran congratulations for that sucessful missione. You remember, as israeli war ships bombardet Beirut because they thaught they canīt defend themsef, but then Hezbollah launched rockets, that we delieverd them, and that destroyed one of their ships. It was first time, that the israeli military got literally crushed. If Iran can do that alone with Hezbollah, imagine how much more we could achive, when you sunni arabs get rid of your puppet dictators like your fat king. We could work together! |
6th November 2009, 07:08 PM
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Reps: 18,762,294,747,481,268 (power: 18,762,294,747,485) | | Originally Posted by Ardeshir How did you sunni arabs feel, as Hezbollah crushed the IDF in 2006 with iranian help?
I know many sunni arabs who don´t like us, but gave iran congratulations for that sucessful missione. You remember, as israeli war ships bombardet Beirut because they thaught they can´t defend themsef, but then Hezbollah launched rockets, that we delieverd them, and that destroyed one of their ships. It was first time, that the israeli military got literally crushed. If Iran can do that alone with Hezbollah, imagine how much more we could achive, when you sunni arabs get rid of your puppet dictators like your fat king. We could work together!
Oh wait but you hate Arabs, how would you work with us when you hate us more then anything, at least the Shian Persians.
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6th November 2009, 07:13 PM
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Reps: 272,822,209,319,755 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by formy Oh wait but you hate Arabs, how would you work with us when you hate us more then anything, at least the Shian Persians.
We can deal that out. We persians are well known for our ability to make peace with former enemies. The question is, if you can do that too... |
6th November 2009, 07:18 PM
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Reps: 18,762,294,747,481,268 (power: 18,762,294,747,485) | | Originally Posted by Ardeshir We can deal that out. We persians are well known for our ability to make peace with former enemies. The question is, if you can do that too...
we only were enemies before Islam, then after Islam there were no problems until Shah Ismail forced the Persians to become Shia and to hate the Arabs again.
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6th November 2009, 07:25 PM
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Reps: 272,822,209,319,755 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by formy we only were enemies before Islam, then after Islam there were no problems until Shah Ismail forced the Persians to become Shia and to hate the Arabs again.
We see that different my friend. The time after islamification were very bad for us. |
6th November 2009, 08:30 PM
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Reps: 19,391,142,157,809,696 (power: 19,391,142,157,824) | | Originally Posted by Tanakh DEATH TO "PALESTINE"!!!
You were doing okay up until this point. There may not have been a "Palestine" as such, but there were Arabs living in and around Israel. They deserve their own state, so long as they also uphold the responsibilities of a nation-state, chief among these being non-belligerence toward neighboring states and not allowing one's sovereign territory to be used to conduct war against other nations. At this juncture, the viability of a Palestinian state fails on this basis, since such a state would inevitably (in the current political climate) be a launching pad for attacks on Israel.
I hope that someday this is not the case, and the Arab-Israeli dispute can be solved equitably and peacefully for all concerned. I'm not holding my breath, however... Originally Posted by interpreter Rachel Corrie is going to hell.
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Reps: 68,604,112,984,827,496 (power: 68,604,112,984,834) | | Originally Posted by formy Did God appoint you to choose who's going to hell and who's not?
She was a non-Muslim so don't you agree with him? At least you two agree on something.
You also agree that it is OK to use violence and war to achieve your ideals and you both support imperialism. I have less of a problem with the things you say because at least you are not claiming to be representing Christianity. | | |
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