Home | Be a Christian | Devotionals | Join Us! | Forums | Rules | F.A.Q.


Go Back   Christian Forums > Society > Society > Politics > International Politics
Register BlogsPrayersJobsArcade Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

International Politics The forum for the discussion of non-US world politics.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 4th September 2009, 02:02 AM
Regular Member

Gender: Male Faith: Christian Country: Canada Member For 3 Years
 
Join Date: 1st July 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 454
Blessings: 28,037
Reps: 43,868,655,193 (power: 43,868,659)
TG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond repute
TG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Al Bundy View Post
Those “homes” you keep referring to were fronts for the import of weapons to be used to commit mass murder.
Or the import of food or medicines. Israeli airports are also fronts for the import of weapons used to commit mass murder, as are American airports from where they are flown.
Reply With Quote
Become a CF Site Supporter Today and Make These Ads Go Away!

  #12  
Old 4th September 2009, 02:03 AM
Regular Member

Gender: Male Faith: Christian Country: Canada Member For 3 Years
 
Join Date: 1st July 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 454
Blessings: 28,037
Reps: 43,868,655,193 (power: 43,868,659)
TG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond repute
TG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Al Bundy View Post
I think we can all agree that both Arabs and Jews would be better off if they just accepted that each has a right to live in peace. They could both prosper if they simply worked together. Unfortunately politicians far away from the conflict benefit from the current state of affairs.
I agree 100%. And both among the Israeli and Palestinian governments you have fanatics who want to dominate and suppress the other side.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 4th September 2009, 02:11 AM
Regular Member

Gender: Male Faith: Christian Country: Canada Member For 3 Years
 
Join Date: 1st July 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 454
Blessings: 28,037
Reps: 43,868,655,193 (power: 43,868,659)
TG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond repute
TG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by marlowe007 View Post
Hippie peace activists constantly drone on about all the "injustices" of the world, but seem to believe that such injustices won't affect themselves when placed in perilous situations such as these. Did she honestly expect the driver to yield her protest and turn the other way? These people are so far removed from reality that I feel sorry for them.
I don't think "hippie peace activists" as you call people who put their bodies and lives at risk to defend victims of human rights abuses are under the illusion that they do not face the risk of physical harm or even death for their actions. Both Martin Luther King and Oscar Romero were pretty certain that eventually they would die for their actions in defence of human rights, but that did not make their murders any less evil or reprehensible.

I don't know if Rachel Corrie expected the driver to swerve out of the way instead of crushing her, like he did before. I doubt if either King or Romero believed that the assasins who would take their lives one day would not balk from their duties and not carry out the murders.

It doesn't really matter though, whether or not they knew they would die. Their murders, whether expected or not, were unjust and unfair. The issue is that the snipers who shot them should not have, and just as true that the driver of the bulldozer who killed Rachel should not have done what he did.

The problems are the murders of these unarmed people who were defending human rights. Not whether or not the victims were 'naive' enough to believe they were going to die.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 4th September 2009, 04:12 AM
TerranceL's Avatar
Tired but still moving.

Gender: Male Faith: Atheist Party: US-Libertarian Country: United States
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 3rd July 2009
Posts: 1,294
Blessings: 15,993
Reps: 3,665,661,024,760 (power: 3,665,661,026)
TerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond repute
TerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by TG123 View Post
Had the driver not been destroying Palestinian's homes,
Had the Palestinians not been using the homes as a cover to bring on wepons to murder civilians....
__________________
The greatest war that a honest person will ever fight will be the war to see thru your own biases and see the issues objectively.

It's a war that nobody ever wins, but a war that honest people never stop fighting.

Originally Posted by Tinker Grey
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dir="ltr">
Ignorance can be cured; stupid can't.
You are ignorant, but that isn't a bad thing. Knowing it means you can do something about it.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


THE NEW BOSS: JUST LIKE THE OLD BOSS.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 4th September 2009, 05:42 AM
Member

Gender: Male Faith: Atheist Country: Australia - Aboriginal
 
Join Date: 11th August 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 408
Blessings: 12,961
Reps: 31,961,212,932,594 (power: 0)
exotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond repute
exotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond reputeexotic walrus has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by TerranceL View Post
Had the Palestinians not been using the homes as a cover to bring on wepons to murder civilians....
Originally Posted by Al Bundy View Post
Those “homes” you keep referring to were fronts for the import of weapons to be used to commit mass murder.
American-Israeli apologetics - funny (if it weren't so pathetic) to everyone on the internet except... Americans and Israelis.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 4th September 2009, 06:09 AM
TheNewWorldMan's Avatar
phased plasma rifle in 40-watt range

41 Gender: Male Faith: Christian Party: US-Others Country: United States Member For 2 Years
 
Join Date: 2nd January 2007
Posts: 6,226
Blessings: 73,093
My Mood Cynical
Reps: 40,490,514,224,602 (power: 40,490,514,233)
TheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond repute
TheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond reputeTheNewWorldMan has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by TerranceL View Post
Had the Palestinians not been using the homes as a cover to bring on wepons to murder civilians....
Well, we really don't know now, do we? It's not like the bulldozers would leave any evidence. It's not like the bulldozings go through any kind of legal review. We just have to take the Israeli government's word for it. And I don't trust the word of any government in situations like this.
__________________
NOTE: To posts seriously comparing Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler, I respond only with pictures of cute, fuzzy animals.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 4th September 2009, 11:26 AM
Regular Member

Gender: Male Faith: Christian Country: Canada Member For 3 Years
 
Join Date: 1st July 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 454
Blessings: 28,037
Reps: 43,868,655,193 (power: 43,868,659)
TG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond repute
TG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by exotic walrus View Post
American-Israeli apologetics - funny (if it weren't so pathetic) to everyone on the internet except... Americans and Israelis.
Don't forget there are many Americans and Israelis who do not buy this propaganda. My hat goes off to Israelis and Jews who take a stand against these injustices and suffer ostracism and sometimes worse for their courage. May God bless them and protect them.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 4th September 2009, 11:33 AM
Regular Member

Gender: Male Faith: Christian Country: Canada Member For 3 Years
 
Join Date: 1st July 2006
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 454
Blessings: 28,037
Reps: 43,868,655,193 (power: 43,868,659)
TG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond repute
TG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond reputeTG123 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by TerranceL View Post
Had the Palestinians not been using the homes as a cover to bring on wepons to murder civilians....
How do you know they were? BTW a question for you- if weapons transporting sites are fit to be bombed then does that mean you support attacks on Israeli airports?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 5th September 2009, 04:10 AM
TerranceL's Avatar
Tired but still moving.

Gender: Male Faith: Atheist Party: US-Libertarian Country: United States
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 3rd July 2009
Posts: 1,294
Blessings: 15,993
Reps: 3,665,661,024,760 (power: 3,665,661,026)
TerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond repute
TerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by exotic walrus View Post
American-Israeli apologetics - funny (if it weren't so pathetic) to everyone on the internet except... Americans and Israelis.
There's no apologetics here, just correcting revisionist history.

Gaza tunnel smugglers stay busy | csmonitor.com

How exactly do you thin they get their weapons into israel anyway?
__________________
The greatest war that a honest person will ever fight will be the war to see thru your own biases and see the issues objectively.

It's a war that nobody ever wins, but a war that honest people never stop fighting.

Originally Posted by Tinker Grey
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dir="ltr">
Ignorance can be cured; stupid can't.
You are ignorant, but that isn't a bad thing. Knowing it means you can do something about it.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


THE NEW BOSS: JUST LIKE THE OLD BOSS.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 5th September 2009, 04:11 AM
TerranceL's Avatar
Tired but still moving.

Gender: Male Faith: Atheist Party: US-Libertarian Country: United States
View Profile Pic
 
Join Date: 3rd July 2009
Posts: 1,294
Blessings: 15,993
Reps: 3,665,661,024,760 (power: 3,665,661,026)
TerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond repute
TerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond reputeTerranceL has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by TG123 View Post
How do you know they were? BTW a question for you- if weapons transporting sites are fit to be bombed then does that mean you support attacks on Israeli airports?
Do I support attacking an airport that's being used to bring in weapons to defend it's own people? Are you REALLY asking me that question?
__________________
The greatest war that a honest person will ever fight will be the war to see thru your own biases and see the issues objectively.

It's a war that nobody ever wins, but a war that honest people never stop fighting.

Originally Posted by Tinker Grey
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
dir="ltr">
Ignorance can be cured; stupid can't.
You are ignorant, but that isn't a bad thing. Knowing it means you can do something about it.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


THE NEW BOSS: JUST LIKE THE OLD BOSS.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Return to International Politics

Thread Tools
Display Modes



 
Become a CF Site Supporter Today and Make These Ads Go Away!
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:03 PM.


vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007 - 2008, PixelFX Studios