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12th September 2009, 04:12 PM
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Reps: 246,782,134,644,269,024 (power: 246,782,134,644,300) | | | The clip looked fantastic. There is nothing greater than a cheerful Christian.
I plan to get to Greenbelt in the next few years. Quite a few our our church family go every year, but some of us have to be left behind to run holiday club. |
14th September 2009, 05:30 AM
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Reps: 1,100,777,478,970,303,104 (power: 1,100,777,478,970,327) | | Originally Posted by TomUK  I suppose from one perspective I can understand your view, and with this sort of thing i suppose it is a case of needing to be there and experience it to fully appreciate what it's about.
I have been to Spring Harvest, several times, although some years ago. And I also went to Greenbelt, once, in younger and more innocent days. No beer, and no songs murdered. Christian enthusiasm does not always equate to rabble rousing.
Your comments did strike as a little odd though, to be honest. Personally i think it's a far bigger crime to sing these classic hymns with no emotion, straight laced and barely any enthusiasm.
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
If you've seen the Eddie Izzard sketch i think he hits the nail on the hand.
I have not seen the sketch, but I like Eddie Izzard. So at least we have one thing in common. Bear in mind, however, that satire is just that; satire. It is not truth, and ought not to be mistaken for it. I have never in my life sung Amazing Grace without emotion, and I have never been anywhere where it was. But I have also not encountered hymns in a beer tent, and am grateful for that.
Emotional or tipsy? What is the difference?
Too many people?! I think that's the fine time i've heard that used as a criticism of a Christian event, and the tent was gigantic - it reached capacity at 800 i think they said and they had at least as many outside the tent joining in.
Too many people is a comment on the tent, not on Greenbelt itself. I don't give a tinkers' how many hundreds of thousands go to Greenbelt. They are most welcome to it.
And the waving arms around was out of enjoyment, something which is also far too rare in churches.
I personally do not go to church to get an emotional high, but to meet with the Living God. I see no need to do that in a tent, drinking beer, and emulating a football fan, in some attempt to ressemble 'real' people. But neither is it part of my faith to sneer at those who express their love for God in a different way from me; my comments only related to me, and my experiences. You have broadened it to criticise those different from yourself. Congratulations.
As you say though, each to their own.
Too late.
__________________ A bruised reed shall He not break, and the smoking flax shall He not quench. Isaiah 42:3 Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen. Ad Jesum per Mariam
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14th September 2009, 06:32 PM
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On the other hand, our good sister Catherene Anne makes some excellent points; and, as usual, causes me to think.
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15th September 2009, 11:35 AM
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Reps: 2,383,688,915,602,883 (power: 2,383,688,915,620) | | Originally Posted by Catherineanne But neither is it part of my faith to sneer at those who express their love for God in a different way from me; my comments only related to me, and my experiences. You have broadened it to criticise those different from yourself. Congratulations.
Well if i have left an impression that i sneer at those of traditions different to my own then i sincerely apologise. I read your comments as something of an attack and perhaps became a little defensive.
Just on the comment regarding ticket prices I consider them to be an absolute bargain. They're currently at £77 for an adult. One of this years headliners was Athlete who you could easily expect to pay upwards of £30 for at a normal gig, and then there was the other 499 events plus 4 nights of camping all included in the ticket price. It averages out at about a £1/ hour.
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15th September 2009, 11:37 AM
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Reps: 2,383,688,915,602,883 (power: 2,383,688,915,620) | | Originally Posted by Naomi4Christ The clip looked fantastic. There is nothing greater than a cheerful Christian.
I plan to get to Greenbelt in the next few years. Quite a few our our church family go every year, but some of us have to be left behind to run holiday club.
Have you been before, Naomi?
__________________ Mother of Christ,
Mother of mine,
intercede for us.
Amen. "Thus abundantly hath the Church of England vindicated her reformation from all pretence of apostasy from the true, ancient Catholic and Apostolic Church...No new Church was set up; no new articles of faith brought in; no new Sacraments; no new order of Priesthood to minister in holy things... only the old were purged from impurities in doctrine, worship and practice. If we were the Catholic Church before, we are still so, and to better purpose."
William Cave, The Unity of the Catholic Church maintained in the Church of England
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