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Old 29th August 2009, 08:04 PM
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Computer Toast?

Compaq/HP Presario SR1010NX (circa 2005) that was in the boy's room has apparently given up the ghost. We'd unplugged it before a storm hit, when plugged back in the green light just keeps blinking and nothing will start. Googling points toward a fried power supply.

Is this a big deal to replace, and is it worth it on something this old? It wasn't the greatest but it worked for what I needed it to (though I was reminded daily that it was slow, couldn't play dvd games on it, blah blah).
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Old 29th August 2009, 09:56 PM
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You can try checking for any loose connections first, given that you're getting a Blinking Light, you've got some sort of power, but if it's the correct Voltage & Amps is another question.

I also found these instructions that are for a problem similar to yours.

Troubleshooting Power Supply Issues HP Pavilion a624x Desktop PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)
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Old 29th August 2009, 09:58 PM
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Also a New Power supply for this system would run around $50, you can get a new low end system for about $300 without a monitor (Just use the current one you've got)
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Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
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Luke 6:27-29 (Love your enemies.)
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Hey thanks for checking in~~ran through all sorts of diagnostics, checked through the troubleshooting checklists, it's all pointing toward the PSU..the last thing I haven't done yet is an internal check, pulling the case and doing some stuff inside.

I'm thinking on the one hand that replacing the PSU will get me some more time to use the system; on the other hand how far away is motherboard or cpu or HD failure, do I sink $50 into the tired thing, or just replace. Are there diagnostics for checking the "health" of other components?
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I'm thinking on the one hand that replacing the PSU will get me some more time to use the system; on the other hand how far away is motherboard or cpu or HD failure, do I sink $50 into the tired thing, or just replace.
Hey MrJim, I just checked the specs of your a-little-long-in-the-tooth pc... I understand that free/no-cost is usually preffered if not necessary atm kinda thing. But, not knowing what your budget/plans might be... pgp_protector, prolly has you thinking in the right direction. Basically, ~$50 for the power supply vs ~$250 more than the power supply - for something a bit fresher. Windows 7 will be out officially in a couple of months, and they will have a 3-license family pack for ~$150, so that might be something to keep in mind too.

In the mean time, Google has a bunch with a range in prices...
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Hey MrJim, I just checked the specs of your a-little-long-in-the-tooth pc... I understand that free/no-cost is usually preffered if not necessary atm kinda thing. But, not knowing what your budget/plans might be... pgp_protector, prolly has you thinking in the right direction. Basically, ~$50 for the power supply vs ~$250 more than the power supply - for something a bit fresher. Windows 7 will be out officially in a couple of months, and they will have a 3-license family pack for ~$150, so that might be something to keep in mind too.

In the mean time, Google has a bunch with a range in prices...
Hey thanks~~I can't make up my mind-there's nothing irreplaceable on the thing so writing it off and replacing is a real option...son wants a gaming pc, I'd rather get a new mac mini and move this one to his room but there isn't gonna be any real gaming done on this thing, but a pc is fun to have around, not sure what to do yet. And by gaming just something that will actually play SimCity (bought the game for him not realizing pc games were dvds now ) sorta thing, not some watercooled supersystem lightning bolt speed racer.

I think maybe replace, then tinker with the old one, scrounge for parts, upgrade it a bit to run linux as a backup system for email & internet surf, just something to work on, maybe learn something
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And by gaming just something that will actually play SimCity (bought the game for him not realizing pc games were dvds now ) sorta thing, not some watercooled supersystem lightning bolt speed racer.
Short term/cheapest for now... get a power supply and DVD drive (under $20 @newegg)

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Sounds like your current comp should be ~OK...

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I think maybe replace, then tinker with the old one, scrounge for parts, upgrade it a bit to run linux as a backup system for email & internet surf, just something to work on, maybe learn something
Sounds reasonable...
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Short term/cheapest for now... get a power supply and DVD drive (under $20 @newegg)



Sounds like your current comp should be ~OK...



Sounds reasonable...
I actually got a dvd drive but turned out computer needed a real vid card and not the integrated thing.
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I think maybe replace, then tinker with the old one, scrounge for parts, upgrade it a bit to run linux as a backup system for email & internet surf, just something to work on, maybe learn something
A PC from 2005 wouldn't need any upgrading (aside from the necessary replacements to get the thing running again) to run Linux. Heck, I'm sitting on a 2001 eMachines that runs both Ubuntu 9.04 and XP SP3 just fine. For comparison the major differences between my T1110 and that Presario are that the processor speed is 2.8x faster than mine, it uses a higher-speed memory (although I also have 256MBs, just PC100), and it has four times the bus speed. So basically, it has more than enough strength already to cope with Linux, especially if the only things are email and internet.

About the power supply, I've noticed with both my comp and my grandparents', that sometimes the issue with power has to do with the plug on the computer's end, rather than on the wall. When I can't turn the computer on and I know there's been a storm or power surge lately, I unplug the cord itself from the computer and plug that back in. Normally it then makes a slight whirring sound (which is the sound of either the PSU's or the general-purpose fan) and can power back on without issue. Of course, in these cases it won't power on at all before I do that, and this seems to be a bit of a different problem.
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A PC from 2005 wouldn't need any upgrading (aside from the necessary replacements to get the thing running again) to run Linux. Heck, I'm sitting on a 2001 eMachines that runs both Ubuntu 9.04 and XP SP3 just fine. For comparison the major differences between my T1110 and that Presario are that the processor speed is 2.8x faster than mine, it uses a higher-speed memory (although I also have 256MBs, just PC100), and it has four times the bus speed. So basically, it has more than enough strength already to cope with Linux, especially if the only things are email and internet.

About the power supply, I've noticed with both my comp and my grandparents', that sometimes the issue with power has to do with the plug on the computer's end, rather than on the wall. When I can't turn the computer on and I know there's been a storm or power surge lately, I unplug the cord itself from the computer and plug that back in. Normally it then makes a slight whirring sound (which is the sound of either the PSU's or the general-purpose fan) and can power back on without issue. Of course, in these cases it won't power on at all before I do that, and this seems to be a bit of a different problem.
When I was diagnosing I was unplugging directly from the computer then plugging back in and then plugging into wall.

Yeah my presario actually has 768mb memory~~I'd probably upgrade that, funny thing is memory is more expensive for this pc than for my mac, at least at Crucial.
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