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Old 2nd November 2009, 06:41 PM
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Assume? I'm not a devotee to assumption theology. See the quote in my signature.



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LOL assumption. Assuming the doctrine of lack of faith is one of my battles with some of you.
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Old 2nd November 2009, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JimfromOhio View Post
LOL assumption. Assuming the doctrine of lack of faith is one of my battles with some of you.
Only in your eyes. I've given up talking to you about it, It's a waste of my time and effort,
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Old 2nd November 2009, 09:21 PM
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Time and efforts in CF is always wasted when unorthodox doctrines get members going and get fed up. I know the feeling.
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Like the unorthodox doctrine that faith makes us whole?!
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Originally Posted by Balance View Post
Only in your eyes. I've given up talking to you about it, It's a waste of my time and effort,

Trying to convince someone from a false premise is always a waste of time but not nearly so much of a waste of time as buying into it. One wastes a few moments; the other a lifetime.

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Trying to convince someone from a false premise is always a waste of time but not nearly so much of a waste of time as buying into it. One wastes a few moments; the other a lifetime.

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Old 7th November 2009, 11:53 AM
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Sometimes it's knowing when someone is unwilling or unable to listen to a viewpoint and deciding to just let it rest. It doesn't mean you don't care for the person, or stop praying for them. Or think less of them, or your position is weak. Sometimes, when dealing with individuals of opposing viewpoints you just make a decision to leave it with a simple statement and walk in love.

None of us has the full truth, none of us are so mature in Christ that we cannot be corrected, every one of us will see the full truth one day when we see our Savior face to face. I suspect on that day none of this debate will matter.
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Sometimes it's knowing when someone is unwilling or unable to listen to a viewpoint and deciding to just let it rest. It doesn't mean you don't care for the person, or stop praying for them. Or think less of them, or your position is weak. Sometimes, when dealing with individuals of opposing viewpoints you just make a decision to leave it with a simple statement and walk in love.

None of us has the full truth, none of us are so mature in Christ that we cannot be corrected, every one of us will see the full truth one day when we see our Savior face to face. I suspect on that day none of this debate will matter.

Now, this is a good statement.

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Originally Posted by Balance View Post
Sometimes it's knowing when someone is unwilling or unable to listen to a viewpoint and deciding to just let it rest. It doesn't mean you don't care for the person, or stop praying for them. Or think less of them, or your position is weak. Sometimes, when dealing with individuals of opposing viewpoints you just make a decision to leave it with a simple statement and walk in love.

None of us has the full truth, none of us are so mature in Christ that we cannot be corrected, every one of us will see the full truth one day when we see our Savior face to face. I suspect on that day none of this debate will matter.
I don't think it matters much now, but I do agree with the statement.
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Originally Posted by JimB View Post
Now, this is a good statement.

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You should have a recommended holiday more often Jim, I haven't disagreed with them yet.
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