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2nd November 2009, 06:41 PM
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Reps: 172,591,226,082,045,760 (power: 172,591,226,082,082) | | Originally Posted by Balance  Assume? I'm not a devotee to assumption theology. See the quote in my signature.
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LOL assumption. Assuming the doctrine of lack of faith is one of my battles with some of you.
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2nd November 2009, 07:29 PM
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Reps: 125,078,383,101,838,352 (power: 125,078,383,101,854) | | Originally Posted by JimfromOhio LOL assumption. Assuming the doctrine of lack of faith is one of my battles with some of you.
Only in your eyes. I've given up talking to you about it, It's a waste of my time and effort,
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2nd November 2009, 09:21 PM
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God knows all. He has known everything from the beginning. Nothing is a surprise to God, nor does He ever come into possession of new knowledge. Did it ever occur to you that nothing occurs to God?
God gave us conscience. If the truth of God's Word opposes the world's wisdom on a certain issue, you must align yourself with God's Word.
Faith is from God, not from man. Man can do nothing to earn or receive it. Martin Luther
If we take our doctrines into our hearts where they belong, they can cause upheavals of emotion and sleepless nights. This is far better than toying with academic ideas that never touch life. John Piper
Faith is the gift of God – not the result of the persuasion of the evangelist.Jerry Bridges |
3rd November 2009, 09:20 PM
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6th November 2009, 08:25 AM
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Reps: 610,632,165,073,638,144 (power: 610,632,165,073,670) | | Originally Posted by Balance Only in your eyes. I've given up talking to you about it, It's a waste of my time and effort, Trying to convince someone from a false premise is always a waste of time but not nearly so much of a waste of time as buying into it. One wastes a few moments; the other a lifetime. ~Jim I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~C.S. Lewis
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6th November 2009, 07:43 PM
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Reps: 172,591,226,082,045,760 (power: 172,591,226,082,082) | | Originally Posted by JimB Trying to convince someone from a false premise is always a waste of time but not nearly so much of a waste of time as buying into it. One wastes a few moments; the other a lifetime. ~Jim I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~C.S. Lewis 
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God knows all. He has known everything from the beginning. Nothing is a surprise to God, nor does He ever come into possession of new knowledge. Did it ever occur to you that nothing occurs to God?
God gave us conscience. If the truth of God's Word opposes the world's wisdom on a certain issue, you must align yourself with God's Word.
Faith is from God, not from man. Man can do nothing to earn or receive it. Martin Luther
If we take our doctrines into our hearts where they belong, they can cause upheavals of emotion and sleepless nights. This is far better than toying with academic ideas that never touch life. John Piper
Faith is the gift of God – not the result of the persuasion of the evangelist.Jerry Bridges |
7th November 2009, 11:53 AM
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Reps: 125,078,383,101,838,352 (power: 125,078,383,101,854) | | | Sometimes it's knowing when someone is unwilling or unable to listen to a viewpoint and deciding to just let it rest. It doesn't mean you don't care for the person, or stop praying for them. Or think less of them, or your position is weak. Sometimes, when dealing with individuals of opposing viewpoints you just make a decision to leave it with a simple statement and walk in love.
None of us has the full truth, none of us are so mature in Christ that we cannot be corrected, every one of us will see the full truth one day when we see our Savior face to face. I suspect on that day none of this debate will matter.
__________________ Saying the body we receive after physical death is a renewed or ultimately healed body is incorrect, to the point of absurdity; equal to having a 1990 banged up Chevy, then receiving a 2011 Cadillac and telling people it's your Chevy after it was repaired.
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7th November 2009, 12:52 PM
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Reps: 610,632,165,073,638,144 (power: 610,632,165,073,670) | | Originally Posted by Balance Sometimes it's knowing when someone is unwilling or unable to listen to a viewpoint and deciding to just let it rest. It doesn't mean you don't care for the person, or stop praying for them. Or think less of them, or your position is weak. Sometimes, when dealing with individuals of opposing viewpoints you just make a decision to leave it with a simple statement and walk in love.
None of us has the full truth, none of us are so mature in Christ that we cannot be corrected, every one of us will see the full truth one day when we see our Savior face to face. I suspect on that day none of this debate will matter. Now, this is a good statement.  ~Jim I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~C.S. Lewis
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8th November 2009, 02:51 AM
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Reps: 177,239,923,559,412,704 (power: 177,239,923,559,435) | | Originally Posted by Balance Sometimes it's knowing when someone is unwilling or unable to listen to a viewpoint and deciding to just let it rest. It doesn't mean you don't care for the person, or stop praying for them. Or think less of them, or your position is weak. Sometimes, when dealing with individuals of opposing viewpoints you just make a decision to leave it with a simple statement and walk in love.
None of us has the full truth, none of us are so mature in Christ that we cannot be corrected, every one of us will see the full truth one day when we see our Savior face to face. I suspect on that day none of this debate will matter.
I don't think it matters much now, but I do agree with the statement.
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8th November 2009, 01:27 PM
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Reps: 155,696,005,911,999,168 (power: 155,696,005,912,020) | | Originally Posted by JimB Now, this is a good statement. ~Jim I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen. Not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else. ~C.S. Lewis
You should have a recommended holiday more often Jim, I haven't disagreed with them yet.
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