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31st August 2009, 05:24 PM
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Reps: 140,073,088,442,865,232 (power: 140,073,088,442,873) | | Originally Posted by salida Yes, Texas - some like socialism and others don't. The other half realizes that what made the u.s. great was freedom - not socialism. The pilgrams left and came to this country to get away from oppression. Now its coming again. Big government is never better but T. Kennedy thought that was great and the answer.
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31st August 2009, 06:02 PM
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Reps: 54,806,534,063,437,296 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by salida Yes, Texas - some like socialism and others don't. The other half realizes that what made the u.s. great was freedom - not socialism. The pilgrams left and came to this country to get away from oppression.
Actually, when the Puritans came here, they practiced some particularly brutal forms of religious oppression... just ask the Quakers and Anabaptists. Now its coming again. Big government is never better but T. Kennedy thought that was great and the answer. What is really amazing is that how a politician who was a drunk and womanizer; left Jo Ann to drown - is a real big golden hero like he was George Washington on the news.
Washington was a mediocre general and an adulterer... perhaps you should pick a different example? I know it was his funeral and I believe in honoring it - but they shouldn't have acted like he was something he wasn't. He wasn't his brother John, Robert, Eunice his sister or George Washtington - who had much more dignity.
And apparantly, got away with much more. | 
31st August 2009, 07:02 PM
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Reps: 140,073,088,442,865,232 (power: 140,073,088,442,873) | | Male politicians on both sides of the isle seem to be drawn towards infidelity and adultery. Even the Reverend Martin Luther King is believed to have a woman on the side. I believe that being in a position of power is a major contributor for some politicians, celebrities, and proponent people.
An unverified blog about politicians infidelity in the past: ADULTEROUS POLITICIANS Mathpol’s Blog: Logic and Emotion
Of course, cheating is not limited to power or men. The everyday man and woman is prone to extra-marital affairs.
Does a man's person life necessarily prevent him from being an effective politician?
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31st August 2009, 07:28 PM
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Reps: 399,886,911,758,635,520 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by JustMeSee Male politicians on both sides of the isle seem to be drawn towards infidelity and adultery. Even the Reverend Martin Luther King is believed to have a woman on the side. I believe that being in a position of power is a major contributor for some politicians, celebrities, and proponent people.
An unverified blog about politicians infidelity in the past: ADULTEROUS POLITICIANS Mathpol’s Blog: Logic and Emotion
Of course, cheating is not limited to power or men. The everyday man and woman is prone to extra-marital affairs.
Does a man's person life necessarily prevent him from being an effective politician?
just because a person is a psycopathic murderer, does that mean he or she cant be an effective politition? oh sorry thats really stuipd. | 
1st September 2009, 01:13 AM
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Reps: 113,334,091,635,218,480 (power: 113,334,091,635,226) | | Originally Posted by canukian just because a person is a psycopathic murderer, does that mean he or she cant be an effective politition? oh sorry thats really stuipd.
At least you have a clear understanding of why your analogy fails.
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1st September 2009, 01:46 PM
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Reps: 2,739,276,925,143,152 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by canukian In its coverage of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy's passing, America's TV networks are creepily reminiscent of those plays Sam Shepard used to write about some dysfunctional inbred hardscrabble Appalachian household where there's a baby buried in the backyard but everyone agreed years ago never to mention it.
In this case, the unmentionable corpse is Mary Jo Kopechne, 1940-1969.
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1st September 2009, 01:57 PM
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Reps: 2,739,276,925,143,152 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by salida Yes, Texas - some like socialism and others don't.
Except when they do it; organizing a Volunteer Fire Department in a rural community is socialism. The other half realizes that what made the u.s. great was freedom - not socialism.
The two concepts are by no means mutually exclusive. Freedom is entirely worthless without health care, education, food, clothing, and shelter. Freedom requires a police force and a military; socialist institutions. The pilgrams left and came to this country to get away from oppression.
So they said; only once they got here they acted just like their oppressors in old England. They kicked the Baptists out of Massachusetts and executed "witches" as an excuse to steal their land. Now its coming again. Big government is never better but T. Kennedy thought that was great and the answer.
Where were you when Bush signed the Patriot Act? The political party whose icon you sport, the Constitution Party, opposes freedom in principle in their platform and seeks to institute a theocracy. What is really amazing is that how a politician who was a drunk and womanizer; left Jo Ann to drown - is a real big golden hero like he was George Washington on the news. I know it was his funeral and I believe in honoring it - but they shouldn't have acted like he was something he wasn't. He wasn't his brother John, Robert, Eunice his sister or George Washtington - who had much more dignity.
This is reprehensible. Kennedy's legislative career far surpassed those of his siblings and Washington. He was the greatest legislator in our lifetimes, certainly better than anyone the Republicans have trotted out since 1980. BTW, where are the "Constitutionist" legislators? Oh, that's right, you don't have any! Your "party" (more like a club of extremely far right busybodies) even offered its Presidential nomination to the disgraced Judge Roy Moore and he turned it down because even he knew how useless that would be. | 
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Reps: 2,739,276,925,143,152 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by canukian
just because a person is a psycopathic murderer, does that mean he or she cant be an effective politition? oh sorry thats really stuipd.
If it wasn't for the effective leadership of the psychopathic murderer Stalin the effective leader and psychopathic murderer Hitler would not have been stopped. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |