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23rd August 2009, 09:22 AM
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No problems.
Needless to say, I agree with Pete Harcoff. Morality came about through evolutionary processes, having to do with working together as a group to survive. |
23rd August 2009, 09:25 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Thistlethorn Morality came about through evolutionary processes, having to do with working together as a group to survive.
I think not.
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23rd August 2009, 10:16 AM
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Fair enough. |
23rd August 2009, 11:28 AM
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Reps: 38,330,407,492,018 (power: 38,330,407,495) | | Originally Posted by Thistlethorn I agree with Pete Harcoff. Morality came about through evolutionary processes, having to do with working together as a group to survive. Originally Posted by AV1611VET I think not.
What about the people who have never heard about your god AV? where did they get their morality from?
or don't they have any? |
23rd August 2009, 12:03 PM
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You may think not all you want, but I've yet to have a single Christian explain why the U.S., a considerably more fervent Christian nation than more 1st world countries, has generally worse social issues than less Christian nations. For example, the original poster who brought up the topic of morality and how murder is wrong.
The US has a murder rate that's about double that of the Czech Republic. Yet the Czech Republic is about 50% atheist/agnostic/non-religious.
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23rd August 2009, 12:11 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by godsmission What about the people who have never heard about your god AV? where did they get their morality from?
or don't they have any?
I think you guys are getting morality mixed up with ethics: - morality = how man interacts with God
- ethics = how man interacts with man
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23rd August 2009, 12:16 PM
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Reps: 9,311,669,886,675,212 (power: 9,311,669,886,693) | | Originally Posted by MoonLancer because we tend to only trust our own tribes. Same goes for the religious when they slaughter each other and both claim to be religions of piece and love. Remind you of anyone? It happens between village, nations and religions. Whats your point?
Agreed, we are tribal to a certain degree. And conflicts definitely arise, typically over competition for resources, conflicting ideologies, and so forth. And it definitely doesn't matter whether religion is involved or not. Which is I firmly believed that the "morality" supposedly derived from religion isn't.
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23rd August 2009, 12:17 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Pete Harcoff The US has a murder rate that's about double that of the Czech Republic. Yet the Czech Republic is about 50% atheist/agnostic/non-religious.
I call that the Sceva Effect.
Satan goes after the Christians, not the non-Christians. Originally Posted by Acts 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
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23rd August 2009, 12:18 PM
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Reps: 9,311,669,886,675,212 (power: 9,311,669,886,693) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I think you guys are getting morality mixed up with ethics: - morality = how man interacts with God
- ethics = how man interacts with man
You're making up definitions.
Ethics are the rules of conduct or base principles. Morality is the compliance with those rules of conduct/principles.
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23rd August 2009, 12:20 PM
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Reps: 9,311,669,886,675,212 (power: 9,311,669,886,693) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I call that the Sceva Effect.
Satan goes after the Christians, not the non-Christians.
Yeah, I've heard this before. Although it completely flies in the face of what plenty of other Christians have told me. Maybe you guys should all get together and figure things out before trying to argue with non-believers. It's just confusing otherwise.
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