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Old 19th August 2009, 05:25 AM
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Sad Finding it hard to trust God for my boyfriend's salvation

Hi everyone. Darrell and I are finally dating. He has made a few major improvements in his life this past month and he has begun to pray every night and such. However, he is still pro-abortion and he still does not like the Catholic Church. I have tried to get him to join RCIA with me so that he can learn about the Catholic Church some more but he keeps telling me that he's not Catholic and he doesn't want to become Catholic. Well, I tell you, my ultimate desire is for him to become Catholic. I know that God wants him to become Catholic but I don't know what I can do to improve his image of the Church. Is this something that will just take a lot of time or is it one of those things that I just have to accept may never happen? Please pray for both him and I. I know that God can work miracles but I am having a hard time trusting that God will bring Darrell to His Church. I could really use some advice and prayers.
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Old 19th August 2009, 11:33 AM
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Hi Ave:

Well I have a lot of experience in this matter - you wanted to know if it takes a lot of time - well I have been married 50 years and just the last 4 years there is no difference in our beliefs - is that long enough for you? LOL

But my situation was in reverse My husband was Catholic and I was Protestant -we went through many churches, tried meeting in the middle, etc - finally God removed ALL religion from us both - now we just have a beautiful walk with Jesus.

God even put me in the RCIA helping a Spirit Filled Nun with people coming into the Catholic church - that really shows you God's sense of humor.

What happened is we moved and could not find a church - they were dry as could be - no Spirit - I would come home and cry. So what does God do? - sits us down at home and teaches us and there is nothing like being taught by the Holy Spirit.

We now have a beautiful walk with Jesus - no legalisms, no do's and don'ts from any church.

My best advice for you is to just let the Joy of the Lord shine through your walk - don't try to convince him that your walk is the best walk - let him see for himself - get more involved in worshiping just with the two of you - just ask him if he will read the Bible with you - God will point the way and it is so beautiful learning from the Holy Spirit. Just be very thankful that he is a Christian and loves the Lord - Love is not labeled Catholic, Protestant, etc - Love is Love.

The more you try to point him to your faith - the more he will draw away and a wall will be built between you - don't tell him that your faith is the only way - if God is drawing him closer to him, there is no label - just the Love of God.
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Originally Posted by Ave Maria View Post
Hi everyone. Darrell and I are finally dating. He has made a few major improvements in his life this past month and he has begun to pray every night and such. However, he is still pro-abortion and he still does not like the Catholic Church. I have tried to get him to join RCIA with me so that he can learn about the Catholic Church some more but he keeps telling me that he's not Catholic and he doesn't want to become Catholic. Well, I tell you, my ultimate desire is for him to become Catholic. I know that God wants him to become Catholic but I don't know what I can do to improve his image of the Church. Is this something that will just take a lot of time or is it one of those things that I just have to accept may never happen? Please pray for both him and I. I know that God can work miracles but I am having a hard time trusting that God will bring Darrell to His Church. I could really use some advice and prayers.
It doesn't happen easily. You must have patience. It could take months to years. But still, its good to keep trying but i recommend just defending the Catholic Faith and not attempting to show him its truth. I recommend that you listen to a CD done by Kimberly Hahn; her conversion story. It took her five years. Here:
Kimberly Hahn's Conversion Story (CD), Conversion Stories, Scott Hahn, Popular Authors and People at The Catholic Company

And on the abortion story, this might be helpful.
Abortion
And since contraception has so much to do with abortion:
Birth Control
Contraception and Sterilization

Good luck and you're in my prayers!!!

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Originally Posted by SharonL View Post
Hi Ave:

Well I have a lot of experience in this matter - you wanted to know if it takes a lot of time - well I have been married 50 years and just the last 4 years there is no difference in our beliefs - is that long enough for you? LOL

But my situation was in reverse My husband was Catholic and I was Protestant -we went through many churches, tried meeting in the middle, etc - finally God removed ALL religion from us both - now we just have a beautiful walk with Jesus.

God even put me in the RCIA helping a Spirit Filled Nun with people coming into the Catholic church - that really shows you God's sense of humor.

What happened is we moved and could not find a church - they were dry as could be - no Spirit - I would come home and cry. So what does God do? - sits us down at home and teaches us and there is nothing like being taught by the Holy Spirit.

We now have a beautiful walk with Jesus - no legalisms, no do's and don'ts from any church.

My best advice for you is to just let the Joy of the Lord shine through your walk - don't try to convince him that your walk is the best walk - let him see for himself - get more involved in worshiping just with the two of you - just ask him if he will read the Bible with you - God will point the way and it is so beautiful learning from the Holy Spirit. Just be very thankful that he is a Christian and loves the Lord - Love is not labeled Catholic, Protestant, etc - Love is Love.

The more you try to point him to your faith - the more he will draw away and a wall will be built between you - don't tell him that your faith is the only way - if God is drawing him closer to him, there is no label - just the Love of God.
Love is definitely Love. However, I have to ask you this, what is the pillar and foundation of Truth?
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Sharon,
I have heard your testimony before and I just love to read it every time.
Thank you.
I have seen way too many marriages stressed to the breaking point by having strong feelings about different forms of worship.

We have talked often and I am more than aware of your love for the Charismatic Catholic Renewal.

Blessings Sister
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Love is definitely Love. However, I have to ask you this, what is the pillar and foundation of Truth?
Thank you for your post. This probably is not the right place to ask the poster this question. It could very easy derail the thread and lead to debate.
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Pray - and pray.
It took St Monica 16 years before the Lord answered her prayer for St Augustine's conversion.

These things do not happen over night, and with his own prayer time [which is good 1st step] - he will be led - just pray he be open to the Holy Spirit's voice.

Patience.
Heck - some folks do not receive grace until the last hour of life.
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I prayed for my sister for 23 years. She finally became a Catholic Christian and little did I know she, who was ten years younger than me would go to join The Lord at 60 years old. God is very good that way.

Pray, pray, pray!!!! Those prayers are heard and answered.
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My best advice for you is to just let the Joy of the Lord shine through your walk - don't try to convince him that your walk is the best walk - let him see for himself - get more involved in worshiping just with the two of you - just ask him if he will read the Bible with you - God will point the way and it is so beautiful learning from the Holy Spirit. Just be very thankful that he is a Christian and loves the Lord - Love is not labeled Catholic, Protestant, etc - Love is Love.

The more you try to point him to your faith - the more he will draw away and a wall will be built between you - don't tell him that your faith is the only way - if God is drawing him closer to him, there is no label - just the Love of God.
This is also the answer that hanging on my mind
We can't ask other to accept our faith, but we can show them what we receive from our faith. We shouldn't think about ourselves, but think about the other (in this case your boyfriend). Try not to force him, instead try to understand him more and love him more. I believe if you change (better and better, know God more), he will change too.
As for abortion and the other things, it will change automatically when he knows and trust God more. And the last thing is PRAY...of course
James 5:16 "...The prayer of a person living right with God is something powerful to be reckoned with." the Message ver
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Pray God's will .... which many times is not our will.....

When we speak " if my wife would ......or my children would quit......or my sister would do...." we are being judgemental and manipulative....which is contrary to God's will....for we are sitting in the judgement seat ....[parable of plank and beam...been there , done that ]

If your boyfriend is going to "a christian church", leave him alone....go with him....be "together, together".....one evening with him and sunday morning with you ....both get what need, and you 2 are there together.... respect and submission from Catholic brothers....biblical wisdom, and boldness from the protestants to go and share your faith with others...

Maryann and I went to our catholic church on sunday and to an independant word of faith church wednesday and sunday evenings....to get more of the bible, to see people excited about God and the things of God, to have some thing to do with our faith ....

We both attended bible school....we write letters 80+ a week to prisoners, we go into our local county jail to teach the bible to inmates, we are part of a prayer team and childrens ministry at our church ....

We no longer just sit in a pew, put in our 45 minutes and go home...( James chapter 2) ....go to all the world, preach, teach, heal ....
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