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Old 18th August 2009, 02:18 AM
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Abiogenesis seeded from space

The creation myth proponents frequently start with the argument against evolution by stating "well how did life start from nothing?". Evolution can explain life on earth all the way back to the simplest of living organisms, but the first building blocks, the amino acids, have been thought by creationists to be to unlikely to occur "randomly". Even though that is not the case, looks like those building blocks arrived from space intact as amino acids. "Lifesoup" was carried here by comets. The most common amino acid on earth, Glycine, has now been confirmed to be found on the comet wild-2.

So amino acids rained down on earth from outer space. Space is full of the building blocks of life. Given the right environment, life will evolve. The universe is likely filled with lifeforms on countless worlds. No gods needed.
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Old 18th August 2009, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by RomanSoldier View Post
The creation myth proponents frequently start with the argument against evolution by stating "well how did life start from nothing?". Evolution can explain life on earth all the way back to the simplest of living organisms, but the first building blocks, the amino acids, have been thought by creationists to be to unlikely to occur "randomly". Even though that is not the case, looks like those building blocks arrived from space intact as amino acids. "Lifesoup" was carried here by comets. The most common amino acid on earth, Glycine, has now been confirmed to be found on the comet wild-2.

So amino acids rained down on earth from outer space. Space is full of the building blocks of life. Given the right environment, life will evolve. The universe is likely filled with lifeforms on countless worlds. No gods needed.
That might well be true but creationists do not want the truth they want everlasting life, if you could come up with something that is true and give everlasting life you would be on to a winner, as it is......

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Old 18th August 2009, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RomanSoldier View Post
The creation myth proponents frequently start with the argument against evolution by stating "well how did life start from nothing?". Evolution can explain life on earth all the way back to the simplest of living organisms, but the first building blocks, the amino acids, have been thought by creationists to be to unlikely to occur "randomly". Even though that is not the case, looks like those building blocks arrived from space intact as amino acids. "Lifesoup" was carried here by comets. The most common amino acid on earth, Glycine, has now been confirmed to be found on the comet wild-2.

So amino acids rained down on earth from outer space. Space is full of the building blocks of life. Given the right environment, life will evolve. The universe is likely filled with lifeforms on countless worlds. No gods needed.
Prove that the comet never originated from earth for starters. Walt Brown claimed that comets were debris shot out from earth at the flood.

Whether Walt's mechanism was the right one or not is not the issue. Tell us more about where the comet originated, if you know..
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Although it is a possible theory, it is not a necessary theory, and only puts back the the origin of life to another place other than our own planet.
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Originally Posted by RomanSoldier View Post
Even though that is not the case, looks like those building blocks arrived from space intact as amino acids.
That's not abiogenesis --- and in fact, that theory is closer to Intelligent Design.
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That's not abiogenesis --- and in fact, that theory is closer to Intelligent Design.

Aww, yeah, those comets are geniuses...
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Old 18th August 2009, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RomanSoldier View Post
The creation myth proponents frequently start with the argument against evolution by stating "well how did life start from nothing?". Evolution can explain life on earth all the way back to the simplest of living organisms, but the first building blocks, the amino acids, have been thought by creationists to be to unlikely to occur "randomly". Even though that is not the case, looks like those building blocks arrived from space intact as amino acids. "Lifesoup" was carried here by comets. The most common amino acid on earth, Glycine, has now been confirmed to be found on the comet wild-2.

So amino acids rained down on earth from outer space. Space is full of the building blocks of life. Given the right environment, life will evolve. The universe is likely filled with lifeforms on countless worlds. No gods needed.
I don't even know if the bolded portion is necessary. Nobody does, really.

Comets can make amino acids... so does the Miller/Urey experiment conditions... so does freezing a mixture of ammonia and cyanide for a few decades... very likely also to be formed in the heat gradient of hydrothermal vents. Anyone still in favor of a "just so" notion of how amino acids are made has an agenda to plug. 'Cause they're stupid-easy to make under a wide variety of common temperature and pressure conditions.

As for the whole of life... *shrug* it could be common, universe-wide. We have little evidence either way.
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Aww, yeah, those comets are geniuses...
One's a big dense unthinking hunk of rock, and the other is a comet
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Prove that the comet never originated from earth for starters.
Tell you what, dad. You prove a negative for us first (any negative you want), then we will do it for you. Until then, don't come back.
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Originally Posted by RomanSoldier View Post
The creation myth proponents frequently start with the argument against evolution by stating "well how did life start from nothing?". Evolution can explain life on earth all the way back to the simplest of living organisms, but the first building blocks, the amino acids, have been thought by creationists to be to unlikely to occur "randomly". Even though that is not the case, looks like those building blocks arrived from space intact as amino acids. "Lifesoup" was carried here by comets. The most common amino acid on earth, Glycine, has now been confirmed to be found on the comet wild-2.

So amino acids rained down on earth from outer space. Space is full of the building blocks of life. Given the right environment, life will evolve. The universe is likely filled with lifeforms on countless worlds. No gods needed.
You should know better than to debate evolution from an abiogenesis standpoint. Evolution itself, isn't concerned with the origin of life, but the origin of species.

Still, it's an interesting article nonetheless.
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