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17th August 2009, 10:14 AM
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I'll take any questions you may have on the Creation Week and try my best to answer them from a Biblical perspective.
I'll even throw in some educated guesses, opinions, and ad libs --- 
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17th August 2009, 10:35 AM
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If that week happened 6000 years ago, how do you explain sunlight seeming to originate from origins farther then 6000 light years away?
Couldn't it be a metaphor? Jesus is not literally a door even though it clearly quotes Jesus as saying "I am the door". And people back then didn't know a lot of things. They weren't necessarily dumb, but even if the big bang was explained to them, they probably wouldn't be able to convey it to others.
How does a day exist before there is a sunrise and sunset?
Isn't god supposed to be omnipotent? Why rest on the 7th day?
What's with all the bones in the ground?
Why earth? Why not somewhere else? Furthermore, when did he make all the other planets and stuff, before during, or after our hunk of dirt?
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17th August 2009, 10:59 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by dewaddict84  If that week happened 6000 years ago, how do you explain sunlight seeming to originate from origins farther then 6000 light years away? Starlight originated from a point much closer to the earth in Genesis 1, where the creation occurred in the hollow of God's hand --- (Isaiah 40:12). Originally Posted by dewaddict84 Couldn't it be a metaphor? No --- Genesis 1 is to be taken literally --- (see Isaiah 45:18-19) Originally Posted by dewaddict84 How does a day exist before there is a sunrise and sunset? It would be one rotation of the earth on its axis. Originally Posted by dewaddict84 Isn't god supposed to be omnipotent? Why rest on the 7th day? 'Rested' means 'stopped'.
God purposely took six days, then stopped on the seventh, so as to use it as a model for the workweek that He instituted in the Ten Commandments --- (Exodus 20: 9-11). Originally Posted by dewaddict84 What's with all the bones in the ground? Dead stuff --- but not in Genesis 1. Originally Posted by dewaddict84 Why earth? Why not somewhere else? This earth we live on is the very first object with mass that ever appeared in the universe --- (Genesis 1:1).
Thus the earth may not be geocentric, but it is certainly geoprominent. Originally Posted by dewaddict84 Furthermore, when did he make all the other planets and stuff, before during, or after our hunk of dirt?
After --- when He created what is called Second Heaven--- (Genesis 1:14-19).
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17th August 2009, 11:09 AM
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Reps: 1,505,485,233 (power: 1,505,488) | | | 1) Why did god take 6 days? he's omnipotent, he should be able to do it in a pico second.
2) HOW did god make all life forms?
3) why did god bother to put in a nested hiarchy of similarities, and then place fossils in the ground that show the formation of those? is he just trying to confuse us?
4) why only us? why didn't god bother to create millions of other "earths" with life on them, just so they can worship him?
5) why does god need worship anyway? isn't he all powerful and perfect already?
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17th August 2009, 11:28 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by random325nicaea 1) Why did god take 6 days? he's omnipotent, he should be able to do it in a pico second.
2) HOW did god make all life forms?
3) why did god bother to put in a nested hiarchy of similarities, and then place fossils in the ground that show the formation of those? is he just trying to confuse us?
4) why only us? why didn't god bother to create millions of other "earths" with life on them, just so they can worship him?
5) why does god need worship anyway? isn't he all powerful and perfect already?
1. God could have indeed done all of Genesis 1 in one picosecond, but He "dragged it out" to six days on purpose. He then used Genesis 1 as a model for the workweek instituted in the Ten Commandments.
2. God created their incipients (kinds) ex materia --- meaning from pre-existing materials He created ex nihilo. (QV Genesis 1:9, 11, 20, 24 --- the 'let the' passages could be speaking of creatio ex materia.)
3. God did not put fossils in the ground in Genesis 1 --- or any other chapter.
4. We are called the Bride of Christ, and Christ wouldn't have multiple wives.
5. God knows that if we don't worship Him, we will worship anything and everything else. He doesn't 'need' worship, per se, He directs us to the right Object of Worship --- Himself.
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17th August 2009, 11:31 AM
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Reps: 12,847,148,479,862 (power: 12,847,148,483) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I'll take any questions you may have on the Creation Week and try my best to answer them from a Biblical perspective.
I'll even throw in some educated guesses, opinions, and ad libs ---
Hi AV1611VET
When did supernova 1987A explode, and how far away from earth was it when it exploded?
Note: Astronomers place supernova 1987A about 168,000 light years away, and 168,000 years ago. Thus an absolute minimum, directly observed age of the universe is 168,000 years.
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17th August 2009, 11:38 AM
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Reps: 12,847,148,479,862 (power: 12,847,148,483) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET 2. God created their incipients (kinds) ex materia --- meaning from pre-existing materials He created ex nihilo. (QV Genesis 1:9, 11, 20, 24 --- the 'let the' passages could be speaking of creatio ex materia.) Originally Posted by Genesis 1 "Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation ..."
"And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures..."
"And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures..."
In these verses, God is clearly and unequivocally commanding the earth and the water to bring forth life. There is not a shadow of a doubt that this refers to creatio ex materia.
Moreover, the method and the timeframe of such creation ex materia is not specified. It could be an evolutionary process over billions of years, unless one can prove that the "days" of Genesis 1 could not possibly be metaphors for long periods of time.
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Reps: 12,847,148,479,862 (power: 12,847,148,483) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET 5. God knows that if we don't worship Him, we will worship anything and everything else. He doesn't 'need' worship, per se, He directs us to the right Object of Worship --- Himself.
I like this answer. 
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17th August 2009, 11:41 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Sophophile Hi AV1611VET  --- Howdy, Sophophile! Originally Posted by Sophophile When did supernova 1987A explode, and how far away from earth was it when it exploded?
I don't mean to be rude or anything --- some people don't like me doing this --- but I have discussed SN1987 rather in-depth in a lengthy discussion with Jester.
QV please: 1063, ff --- thanks!
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17th August 2009, 11:45 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Sophophile Moreover, the method and the timeframe of such creation ex materia is not specified. It could be an evolutionary process over billions of years, unless one can prove that the "days" of Genesis 1 could not possibly be metaphors for long periods of time.
Well, again, we're getting into literal vs metaphor here, and I'd rather answer these questions from a literal POV.
I personally don't believe God started His Word out with metaphor.
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