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We call that a 'glorified state' --- and God is going to return this universe to its glorified state (with some modifications) in the future.
Yes, I know. May 11, 2011.
The anticipation is killing me.
__________________ We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is noaccident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.
Yes, I know. May 11, 2011.
The anticipation is killing me.
No.
After the next dispensation --- which will run for 1000 years.
Originally Posted by Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Notice the 'passed away' there?
Originally Posted by 2 Peter 3:12
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat.
All the elements on the Periodic Table are going to be affected.
After the next dispensation --- which will run for 1000 years.Notice the 'passed away' there?All the elements on the Periodic Table are going to be affected.
But in the meantime, back to Genesis 1, eh?
Nope. Harold Camping is a literal KJV'ist. He has a few more years than you, so I think he knows what he's talking about. If he uses the KJV claim that the end is May 11, 2011, then who are you to say he isn't?
__________________ We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is noaccident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.
Nope. Harold Camping is a literal KJV'ist. He has a few more years than you, so I think he knows what he's talking about. If he uses the KJV claim that the end is May 11, 2011, then who are you to say he isn't?
The end of what?
Which dispensation is he talking about?
The end of this current one?
In other words, is he talking about the Rapture (which is the beginning of the end of this dispensation); or is he talking about the Great White Throne Judgment (which is the end of the next [and last] dispensation)?
(And the King James doesn't claim any end to be 11 May 2011.)
In other words, is he talking about the Rapture (which is the beginning of the end of this dispensation); or is he talking about the Great White Throne Judgment (which is the end of the next [and last] dispensation)?
(And the King James doesn't claim any end to be 11 May 2011.)
You obviously haven't studied the KJV to the extent that he has.
He claims the date of the rapture is May 21 (not eleven, my error), 2011.
The end of the world is October 21, 2011.
__________________ We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is noaccident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.
What's the point of 4004 bce, if the world is ending in just over two short years?
The creation week, we get it, six literal days, then god rested. Case closed.
__________________ We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is noaccident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.
I'll take any questions you may have on the Creation Week and try my best to answer them from a Biblical perspective.
I'll even throw in some educated guesses, opinions, and ad libs ---
Why did an eternal, self-existing being wait until 6000 years ago to create the universe?
__________________ Slug's 1st Law of YECism- Genesis 1-9 must be interpreted literally. Slug's 2nd Law of YECism- Any other verses can be interpreted liberally to support the 1st Law. Slug's 3rd Law of YECism- Make up any extra-Biblical claim, no matter how wild, to wave-away evidence in violation of the 1st Law.
"If God sent a wind from space, and blew waters off the surface, for example, the waters would go down. Just as if you take a cup full of water over a sink, and blow hard on it, a lot will go out of the cup. Elementary." -dad ^This statement nullifies his own argument by comparing a "present state" event to a "past state" event!
Which is why after about 13.7 billion years, things are just right.
__________________ We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is noaccident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.
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