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1st October 2009, 11:25 PM
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Reps: 9,622,124,059,209,730 (power: 9,622,124,059,220) | | Originally Posted by brinny  This person is dead until the LIFE of CHRIST is in him.
"Life of Christ" meaning saved?
__________________ "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
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1st October 2009, 11:30 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,908) | | Originally Posted by jlujan69 "Life of Christ" meaning saved?
Is there a difference?
__________________ "Prove all things;
hold fast that which is good.
Abstain from all appearance of evil."
~1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
20th October 2009, 11:22 PM
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25th October 2009, 11:11 PM
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Reps: 9,622,124,059,209,730 (power: 9,622,124,059,220) | | Originally Posted by brinny Is there a difference?
So, can a spiritually dead person really choose Christ? Can a physically dead person choose anything whilst dead?
__________________ "It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
--Theodore Roosevelt-- |
27th October 2009, 07:30 AM
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Reps: 30,067,699,875,953,608 (power: 30,067,699,875,963) | | Originally Posted by CantateDomino I agree with everything on that SoF, but don't really claim the name Fundamentalist. FWIW, I hold a position that regeneration is by God's grace alone, yet that grace is resistible. IOW, we cannot choose to be saved, but we can choose to fall away.
I'm going to have to agree with CD. I too am in in agreement with the SoF but don't claim to be a fundamentalist (if for no other reason, people don't seem to buy an "emerging church" Pentecostal as a fundy  ). I'm also Lutheran on soteriology. Even though that isn't my church, Martin Luther is one of my valued teachers.
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No guilt of life, no fear of death
This is the power of Christ in me
From life’s first cry to final breath
Jesus commands my destiny
No power of hell, no scheme of man
Can ever pluck me from His hand
‘Til He returns or calls me home
Here in the power of Christ I’ll stand
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1st November 2009, 04:04 PM
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1st November 2009, 09:58 PM
|  | “Sunlight is painting.” - Nathaniel Hawthorne
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Eph 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
Rom 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God.
I realize most people have trouble with the Calvinistic viewpoint but it is well supported by the Biblical text, as written.
Jesus and His apostles gave us many examples on how to evangelize and we are instructed to do so.
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