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I'm theologically conservative about some things, but I am liberal about certain practices. For example, I believe in open communion, but my church practices closed communion.
I think a moderate is someone who blends liberal acceptance and conservative beliefs.
^^I like this. What he said. That is what I am. I have conservative beliefs theologically, but I realize that not everyone believes as I do, and that doesn't make them evil or any less valuable then me.
^^I like this. What he said. That is what I am. I have conservative beliefs theologically, but I realize that not everyone believes as I do, and that doesn't make them evil or any less valuable then me.
That is generally how I roll.
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I understand the meaning of the terms liberal, moderate , and conservative in relation to politics but I would feel strange adopting any of them to actually define my spiritual worldview. Does anyone else feel that way? I know my Priest would often say that this isn't a conservative, liberal, traditionalist, modernist, moderate, etc.. Church, this is the Church of Christ and that labels of that nature have no place here. Did Christians ever think of themselves as being part of a specifically liberal vs conservative theology or church prior to relatively modern times? I don't see the early Christians talking (or rather writing because we have their writings and not recordings of their conversations obviously lol) in that manner for example.
Maybe in some instances it could be a useful designation though? I don't know. Just wondering what others thought.
I understand the meaning of the terms liberal, moderate , and conservative in relation to politics but I would feel strange adopting any of them to actually define my spiritual worldview. Does anyone else feel that way? I know my Priest would often say that this isn't a conservative, liberal, traditionalist, modernist, moderate, etc.. Church, this is the Church of Christ and that labels of that nature have no place here. Did Christians ever think of themselves as being part of a specifically liberal vs conservative theology or church prior to relatively modern times? I don't see the early Christians talking (or rather writing because we have their writings and not recordings of their conversations obviously lol) in that manner for example.
Maybe in some instances it could be a useful designation though? I don't know. Just wondering what others thought.
The terms conservative and liberal have a different, but similar meaning in the context of theology. Generally anything "liberal" is something that goes against what is traditional, or perceived to be "the norm." At this point in the story of Christianity on Earth, the traditional side equates to the types of theology found in churches that adhere to fully to whatever foundational doctrines their denominations set up during the Reformation, or long before that (i.e. Catholics, Orthodox, etc).
Extremely conservative Protestant theology is characterized by salvation only being possible via belief in Jesus. Nothing else. It is also characterized by an extreme adherence to traditional morality. That is: anti-homosexuality, no sex before marriage, etc. Liberal theology tends to be far more accepting of things like that.
The conservative-liberal scale in theology can, I think, be applied in two different places: doctrine and morality. Conservative doctrine is adherence to beliefs that have been traditional to Christianity for a long time, or from its beginning. Liberal doctrine is that which is less afraid of taking inspiration from other religions or systems and integrating them into Christian theology. Conservative vs liberal morality I already explained above.
Being able to measure conservative vs liberal on two scales (doctrine and morality) somewhat reduces the ambiguity of the terms. It's not perfect, but it does the job a lot better than lumping an individual Christian's beliefs entirely into "liberalism" or "conservatism."
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I find myself to be pretty much centrist. Certain areas of my theology and politics are conservative, but certain areas are not. And even then I try to take as balanced a view as possible.
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"Offense" is something TAKEN. No one MAKES anyone feel anything. IF we are offended by something, we CHOSE to be offended by it...
But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.
NO ONE is mandated to agree with anyone.
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How can you be a moderate politically or theologically without being wishy-washy? For instance, like you can't make up your mind? For instance, I hold steadfast to the beliefs that Jesus was resurrected in body, was born of a virgin, and was the son of God. However, I don't believe when the Bible says that a wife is to be submissive to her husband does that mean she is subordinate, a doormat, or has to submit to the will of all men on the planet. Does this equal wishy-washy?
Wishy-washy, as defined by a good friend of mine:
When you're on either side of the road, you don't get hit by traffic. When you're in the middle, you become roadkill pizza: people and their views will run you down.
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"Offense" is something TAKEN. No one MAKES anyone feel anything. IF we are offended by something, we CHOSE to be offended by it...
But I think that OFTEN, people confuse discussion with fighting. Disagreeing is not personal, it is not an attack, it is not disrespectful or flaming, it is not offensive per se. It ONLY means, "I disagree." Nothing more. Nothing less. It suggests NO emotional response whatsoever.
NO ONE is mandated to agree with anyone.
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Most people equate being theologically conservative with being moralistic. Moderate Christians generally realize that this is not true.
You could probably make a pretty good case that Moderate Christians are those who are doctrinally conservative, yet non-Pietistic in their practice of Christianity.
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Most people equate being theologically conservative with being moralistic. Moderate Christians generally realize that this is not true.
You could probably make a pretty good case that Moderate Christians are those who are doctrinally conservative, yet non-Pietistic in their practice of Christianity.
That definition fits me pretty well.
Though actually I'm only really conservative on the core doctrines, such as expressed in the 1910 'five fundamentals' or the Nicene Creed. When we move beyond those, liberals and I agree on a lot. So calling me a Fundamentalist Liberal wouldn't be too far off, though it might make some people's heads explode.
Politically I'm not liberal at all, but libertarian-right, like Barry Goldwater, Ron Paul, Neal Boortz or Larry Elder.
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