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9th August 2009, 06:28 PM
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For many years I have wondered about this very question.. (writing in large font due to partial blindness...)
As a Christian, This is something I've always pondered...
When God created the Angels for himself for worship/ friendship I know that these beings came from God as he created them.
As God is ALL KNOWING and HOLY and hates evil. When God seen that Lucifer was about to rebel along with taking 1/3 of the Angels with him. God being all knowing would have seen the evils that his Angelic creations would have caused unimaginable horrors to mankind - made in God Image.
Don't you think that God would have said somthing like this to satan.
You and the angels who are following you will do tremendous damage and evil to my next creation Man & Woman.
Being the Holy God that I am I cannot let you harm my human creation, I will banish you and the angels that follow you from existence.
Therefore you will not harm my creation and introduce evils ( Murders, Molestations, Lies, hate, envy and All other forms of Evil) to them, for you will cause horrible destruction therefore I will not let you go to Earth and you will be banished from existence and be no more. Earth is home of my Newest Creation Man & Woman.. They are off limits.. because I hate Evil.. cannot stand it nor tolerate it...
Please tell me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would God let satan cause such terrible damage to this Earth and his Human creation for over 5 thousand years...
And just wait till satan causes so much sickening death and destruction, and after thousands of years then he will execute judgment IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!
Why would God allow this?
This seems to go against every thing the bible says about God. If God is "Love" why would he allow such evil...
Is there something else we are not told about God?
I know that some will say " God is mysterious" and "That's just that way it is" or "Gods ways are not are ways"
These statements are not enough...
Anyone?
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9th August 2009, 07:29 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,908) | | Originally Posted by Greekguy  For many years I have wondered about this very question.. (writing in large font due to partial blindness...)
As a Christian, This is something I've always pondered...
When God created the Angels for himself for worship/ friendship I know that these beings came from God as he created them.
As God is ALL KNOWING and HOLY and hates evil. When God seen that Lucifer was about to rebel along with taking 1/3 of the Angels with him. God being all knowing would have seen the evils that his Angelic creations would have caused unimaginable horrors to mankind - made in God Image.
Don't you think that God would have said somthing like this to satan.
You and the angels who are following you will do tremendous damage and evil to my next creation Man & Woman.
Being the Holy God that I am I cannot let you harm my human creation, I will banish you and the angels that follow you from existence.
Therefore you will not harm my creation and introduce evils ( Murders, Molestations, Lies, hate, envy and All other forms of Evil) to them, for you will cause horrible destruction therefore I will not let you go to Earth and you will be banished from existence and be no more. Earth is home of my Newest Creation Man & Woman.. They are off limits.. because I hate Evil.. cannot stand it nor tolerate it...
Please tell me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why would God let satan cause such terrible damage to this Earth and his Human creation for over 5 thousand years...
And just wait till satan causes so much sickening death and destruction, and after thousands of years then he will execute judgment IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!!
Why would God allow this?
This seems to go against every thing the bible says about God. If God is "Love" why would he allow such evil...
Is there something else we are not told about God?
I know that some will say " God is mysterious" and "That's just that way it is" or "Gods ways are not are ways"
These statements are not enough...
Anyone?
God is perfect holiness. He is the antithesis of evil. HE is not evil, however He created beings with the capacity for evil. Man is created with a choice. Man must weather the storms of destruction that sin caused. The enemy is taunting God and saying, see, none of Your children love You. And he is genius at delusion and lies and many fall therewith hook, line, and sinker, into them, never to see God's light. Others, love God with all of their hearts, souls, minds, and strength and run the race, looking only to, at the end, see His face.
As it is written, there is a battle raging of forces not seen by the human eye. That is why our God admonishes us to put on the full armor of God, for we are in perilous times, and the enemy goes about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.
Surely you're aware of this brother in Christ.
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~1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
9th August 2009, 07:41 PM
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Reps: 4,549,355,203,262 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by brinny God is perfect holiness. He is the antithesis of evil. HE is not evil, however He created beings with the capacity for evil.
Then how do you explain this scripture.... Amos 3:6
" When a trumpet sounds in a city,
do not the people tremble?
When disaster comes to a city,
has not the LORD caused it?" (Amplified Bible)
6Shall a trumpet be blown in the city and the people not be alarmed and afraid? Shall misfortune or evil occur [as punishment] and the Lord has not caused it? King James Version)
6Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it? American Standard Version)
6 Shall the trumpet be blown in a city, and the people not be afraid? shall evil befall a city, and Jehovah hath not done it?
Maybe God is Both... This scripture says
Shall misfortune or evil occur [as punishment] and the Lord has not caused it?"
meaning Caused disaster..
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9th August 2009, 08:26 PM
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Reps: 4,549,355,203,262 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by brinny Thank you for your thoughts. Did you surmise your thinking from what is written in His Word? Do you know Him, His character? From which vantage point are you speaking?
I would not say surmise by way of thinking but empirical, being raised Catholic to Christian.. Every time I have asked this even to God.. And I would not state that there is a "Vantage" point but again merely empirical
. There is no answer..Pastors do not have an answer, when I have asked this on other forums people say that I'm lost, and that I need God..or they say that is just the way it is....
These answers are not good enough...
I just get sick and tired of seeing injustices in this sick world and wonder why God didn't just stop this atrocity before it happened.... |
9th August 2009, 08:30 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,854,908) | | Originally Posted by Greekguy I would not say surmise by way of thinking but empirical, being raised Catholic to Christian.. Every time I have asked this even to God.. And I would not state that there is a "Vantage" point but again merely empirical
. There is no answer..Pastors do not have an answer, when I have asked this on other forums people say that I'm lost, and that I need God..or they say that is just the way it is....
These answers are not good enough...
I just get sick and tired of seeing injustices in this sick world and wonder why God didn't just stop this atrocity before it happened....
you do know about sin, do you not, brother in Christ?
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hold fast that which is good.
Abstain from all appearance of evil."
~1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
9th August 2009, 08:36 PM
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Reps: 4,549,355,203,262 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by brinny you do know about sin, do you not, brother in Christ?
Yes I know about sin, I just had a simple question and wondered if others may have had the same thoughts... |
9th August 2009, 08:42 PM
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you do know about sin, do you not, brother in Christ? Originally Posted by Greekguy Yes I know about sin, I just had a simple question and wondered if others may have had the same thoughts...
The corruption and seethingly boiling-over cauldron of evil you see around you is from sin and the strangle hold it has on man. It is not because God is evil. Stay tuned. It's going to worsen. It is written.
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hold fast that which is good.
Abstain from all appearance of evil."
~1 Thessalonians 5:21-22 posted by ViaCrucis:
It's not even "too much Old Testament", in the Old Testament God is compassionate, shows mercy, is patient and long-suffering. Consider the lesson we learn from Jonah, or the word delivered to Ezekiel that God does not desire the death of the wicked, that God takes no pleasure or joy in the destruction of the wicked by desires that that the wicked repent and change their ways so they might live and have life. God has always been a merciful, compassionate, kind and patient God who has no desire for the destruction of the wicked, who has loving-kindness for the sinner and for the wicked person to change their ways and truly live and have life. -CryptoLutheran |
9th August 2009, 08:47 PM
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Reps: 4,549,355,203,262 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by brinny The corruption and seethingly boiling-over cauldron of evil you see around you is from sin and the strangle hold it has on man. It is not because God is evil. Stay tuned. It's going to worsen. It is written.
That's just been my question all along.. why didn't God stop this sick evil "cauldron of evil" before it happened being that GOD IS ALL KNOWING! WHY NOT SPARE US THESE EVILS! AND JUST LET US LIVE IN HIS LOVE PEACE AND HARMONY! WHY MAKE IT THIS HARD!!??
That's my question why allow it, why not stop it before it happened! that's the question. |
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