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5th August 2009, 01:55 PM
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Reps: 10 (power: 0) | | | Tooth fairy is a positive claim, same state past is not. Since you have some difficulties understading that, I'll move on.
So, tell me, what was the different state like? How did things work before "things got changed"?
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5th August 2009, 02:23 PM
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Reps: 73,387,680,619,479,952 (power: 0) | | | Dad, please stay from the false dichotomy, we're not impressed nor swayed by it. It is not good enough to point out why traditional theories are false, unless you have a theory that better explains current observations and data.
Please, use this opportunity (without impugning traditionally accepted science/theories) to bringforth your data to support DSP.
We would love to see what you have, without trying to discredit generally accepted theories. Act as if we know nothing at this point in time, and you are here to present us with your data to support your DSP theory. | 
5th August 2009, 02:50 PM
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Reps: 110,182,959,778,071,968 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest! Dad, please stay from the false dichotomy, we're not impressed nor swayed by it. It is not good enough to point out why traditional theories are false, unless you have a theory that better explains current observations and data.
Please, use this opportunity (without impugning traditionally accepted science/theories) to bringforth your data to support DSP.
We would love to see what you have, without trying to discredit generally accepted theories. Act as if we know nothing at this point in time, and you are here to present us with your data to support your DSP theory.
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5th August 2009, 03:17 PM
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Reps: 73,387,680,619,479,952 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Hespera It would be more intellecutaler to go stir up a ant hill with a stick Try it!
Yes, I agree. Myrmacology does indeed teach us alot. In fact, E.O. Wilson wrote a book called "The Creation." The book is in letter format, addressed to a Southern Baptist Preacher, with the intent of pointing out the importance of "god's creation."
But, we digress. BOT, and still waiting. | 
5th August 2009, 03:27 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest! Yes, I agree. Myrmacology does indeed teach us alot. In fact, E.O. Wilson wrote a book called "The Creation." The book is in letter format, addressed to a Southern Baptist Preacher, with the intent of pointing out the importance of "god's creation."
Be careful --- I once made a reference to interviewing ants ( 332 ), and it was used to try and make me look bad.
(I'm sure you won't have that problem though, as you don't carry a Christian icon.)
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5th August 2009, 04:13 PM
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Reps: 73,387,680,619,479,952 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET Be careful --- I once made a reference to interviewing ants ( 332 ), and it was used to try and make me look bad.
(I'm sure you won't have that problem though, as you don't carry a Christian icon.)
BTW, still waiting for original papers supporting theory of DSP. | 
6th August 2009, 02:57 AM
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Reps: 18,446,951,426,295,816 (power: 18,446,951,426,313) | | Originally Posted by thaumaturgy Am I thinking of the right "hypothesis"?
Well, not really. While I'm sure that there are folks that subscribe to that idea, most do not. EU/PC theory is probably best explained in Cosmic Plasma by Hannes Alfven. It simply suggests the electromagnetic fields also play a role in events in space, not simply gravity.
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6th August 2009, 03:06 AM
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Reps: 18,446,951,426,295,816 (power: 18,446,951,426,313) | | Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest! Yes, I agree. Myrmacology does indeed teach us alot. In fact, E.O. Wilson wrote a book called "The Creation." The book is in letter format, addressed to a Southern Baptist Preacher, with the intent of pointing out the importance of "god's creation."
But, we digress. BOT, and still waiting. http://www.thesurfaceofthesun.com/Al...logyAlfven.pdf
What are you still waiting for exactly? Got a gram of "dark matter"? Care to explain why I should put any "faith" in a dead inflation deity and dark evil energies?
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6th August 2009, 08:56 AM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by LifeToTheFullest! BTW, still waiting for original papers supporting theory of DSP.
Why would there be any?
According to science, this would have happened in prehistoric * times, when there was no writing.
Of course, we literal creationists don't believe in the prehistoric times, and we submit Genesis 1 thru 11 as valid written records --- but science denies all that. * The one invention that separates prehistory from history is writing.
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Reps: 49,506,284,250,467,360 (power: 49,506,284,250,480) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET Why would there be any?
According to science, this would have happened in prehistoric* times, when there was no writing.
Of course, we literal creationists don't believe in the prehistoric times, and we submit Genesis 1 thru 11 as valid written records --- but science denies all that. * The one invention that separates prehistory from history is writing.
Isn't it great that in real science many things related to the PHYSICAL LAWS don't require someone to have "written" the evidence?
That's why science is hard. Sometimes you have to actually examine evidence and you can't just take what some anonymous source writing at an unknown, unverifiable time wrote to tell you what was happening! |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |