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3rd August 2009, 10:14 AM
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I want to single this one out. Because it bothers me a lot.
I don't care what xxxlogical evidences are there, so far, I don't see any apes live a life like we do. Why do so many people insist blindly that we evolved from some apes. Can they see that we wear clothes and we drive cars? Why don't they count these facts into the evolution theory? |
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Reps: 1,795,728 (power: 1,807) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun  I want to single this one out. Because it bothers me a lot.
I don't care what xxxlogical evidences are there, so far, I don't see any apes live a life like we do. Why do so many people insist blindly that we evolved from some apes. Can they see that we wear clothes and we drive cars? Why don't they count these facts into the evolution theory?
Um Juvenissun, building a structure to sleep in is a common trait among primates.
I cannot think of one off hand that dose not build a "house." Edit, of the great ape family.
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3rd August 2009, 11:16 AM
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Reps: 1,795,728 (power: 1,807) | | Originally Posted by Mrs Amys Music They are desperately trying to deny the presence of God. If you don't want to follow Christ, you really don't want to see any evidence of Him because it's convicting. That's what I think anyhow.
Since most people who accept evolution in the United States are Christians, you might want to rethink your position. |
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Reps: 18,889,155,825,852,136 (power: 18,889,155,825,864) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun I want to single this one out. Because it bothers me a lot.
I don't care what xxxlogical evidences are there, so far, I don't see any apes live a life like we do. Why do so many people insist blindly that we evolved from some apes. Can they see that we wear clothes and we drive cars? Why don't they count these facts into the evolution theory?
I don't understand why you would expect other apes to drive cars and wear clothes if they were evolutionarily related to us. Adam didn't drive a car -- does that mean we're not descended from him, either?
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Reps: 78,666,682,710,620,416 (power: 78,666,682,710,632) | | Originally Posted by LewisWildermuth Since most people who accept evolution in the United States are Christians, you might want to rethink your position.
Most global historic Christians have been Creationists. America is evenly divided between Christians who say God did it by evolution and Christians who argue a Creationist position
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by Mallon I don't understand why you would expect other apes to drive cars and wear clothes if they were evolutionarily related to us. Adam didn't drive a car -- does that mean we're not descended from him, either?
So, where is the ape descendant through these millions of years, who also ... say, wears (stylish) clothes.
Why is there no other animal dominates or shares the dominance of the world, except us? (Think about the movie Planet of Ape. It demonstrates the value of science fiction). |
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Reps: 18,889,155,825,852,136 (power: 18,889,155,825,864) | | | juvie, there's nothing about evolutionary theory that denies the evolution of new technologies and behaviours in man. Like I said, Adam didn't drive a car, and neither did he wear stylish clothes. Heck, like apes, he did wear any clothes at all, in the beginning! I don't know why you're not also questioning our relationship to him.
Your argument is just plain silly, if not desperate. It betrays an abominable understanding of the evolutionary theory. I don't know what else to tell you.
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Reps: 12,567,898,174,147,644 (power: 12,567,898,174,166) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun I want to single this one out. Because it bothers me a lot.
I don't care what xxxlogical evidences are there, so far, I don't see any apes live a life like we do. Why do so many people insist blindly that we evolved from some apes. Can they see that we wear clothes and we drive cars? Why don't they count these facts into the evolution theory?
Because they are not relevant. Humans did not begin to drive cars until the 20th century and we don't know just when they began wearing clothes, but it was probably after 1) they lost most of their thick body hair and 2) they moved into cooler climates. In any case it was well after humans and chimps went their separate evolutionary ways.
Why do you think chimps, or other non-human apes need to live like we do for evolutionary theory to be valid? (And remember, humans are also apes.)
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