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4th August 2009, 02:58 PM
| | | A house is generally a shelter or building or structure that is a dwelling or place for habitation by human beings. The term includes many kinds of dwellings ranging from rudimentary huts of nomadic tribes to high-rise apartment buildings. In some contexts, "house" may mean the same as dwelling, residence, home, abode, lodging, accommodation, or housing, among other meanings.
The social unit that lives in a house is known as a household. Most commonly, a household is a family unit of some kind, though households can be other social groups, such as single persons, or groups of unrelated individuals. Settled agrarian and industrial societies are composed of household units living permanently in housing of various types, according to a variety of forms of land tenure. English-speaking people generally call any building they routinely occupy "home". Many people leave their houses during the day for work and recreation, and return to them to sleep or for other activities.  | 
4th August 2009, 06:55 PM
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by metherion How about: It was an evolutionary advantage.
You can see for yourself, humans lack a lot of fur, thick layers of blubber, scales, etc etc etc for keeping the elements at bay. So being able to build a shelter and stay in one would confer *gasp* an advantage in NOT DYING OF EXPOSURE!
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I always wonder: why didn't human develop cave as a normal dwelling place (like one in the movie Lord of Ring). It should be the most logical way to make a house based on evolution theory. In fact, I prefer to live in an underground "house" rather than a normal house above the ground.
What is the evolutionary advantage for building an above-surface house? | 
4th August 2009, 07:30 PM
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Reps: 63,932,760,995,062,528 (power: 63,932,760,995,076) | | Originally Posted by juvenissun I always wonder: why didn't human develop cave as a normal dwelling place (like one in the movie Lord of Ring). It should be the most logical way to make a house based on evolution theory. In fact, I prefer to live in an underground "house" rather than a normal house above the ground.
What is the evolutionary advantage for building an above-surface house?
Isn't that the subject of another thread? Before we move on to other topics, are your initial questions from this thread answered? If not, we should continue on with them.
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4th August 2009, 08:08 PM
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Why?
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if houses could reproduce and evolve that is.
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4th August 2009, 09:46 PM
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by Assyrian I suppose he thinks Hobbit holes evolved from caves, given our ancestors lived in trees, Lothlórien would make more sense, 
if houses could reproduce and evolve that is.
Thanks. Very much so. I would expect some apes have figured out something like that in the past few (15?) million years.
Somebody answer this: Many birds can build a tree "house", why not apes? Is the evolutional advantage of having a house illusive? We probably have cave man in the history. Why don't we see some cave apes? | 
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Reps: 44,404,246,110,554,912 (power: 44,404,246,110,568) | | Originally Posted by Willtor Isn't that the subject of another thread? Before we move on to other topics, are your initial questions from this thread answered? If not, we should continue on with them.
I think it is a part of the same question. A house could be in the ground, on the ground or above the ground. Many animals live in tunnels. What happened (evolution?) to us so that few of us do that any more. (remember VietCong? They did that and they won the war.) | 
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4th August 2009, 10:42 PM
| | | Underground living refers simply to living below the ground's surface, whether in naturally occurring caves or in built structures.
Besides obvious novelty, underground living offers additional benefits when compared to living in traditional buildings, such as a nearly constant comfortable temperature without the need for additional insulation, quiet, resistance to hurricanes, tornadoes and most weapon systems and the unobtrusiveness of such buildings on the landscape. One of the greatest advantages is energy efficiency. The stable subsurface temperature of the Earth saves around 80% in energy costs. If married to solar design, the energy bill can be completely eliminated. Additionally, the noise insulation of the surrounding earth makes underground homes exceptionally quiet, and with a smaller surface area, fewer building materials are used. However underground living can be easily affected by flooding and sometimes special pumping equipment is necessary.
Underground living has been a feature of fiction, such as the hobbit holes of the Shire as described in the stories of J. R. R. Tolkien and The Underground City by Jules Verne. It is also the preferred mode of housing to communities in such extreme environments as Australia's Coober Pedy, Berber caves as those in Matmâta, Tunisia, and even Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station. Underground living is even being considered for the design of a future base on Mars.
Often, underground living structures are not entirely underground, typically if they are exposed on one side when built into a hill. This exposure can significantly improve interior lighting, although at the expense of greater exposure to the elements. | 
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