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3rd August 2009, 12:43 AM
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Reps: 9,224,662,910,199,420 (power: 9,224,662,910,207) | | Is Kyle Sandilands really to blame? Hello all,
I am deeply disgusted with the fiasco surrounding the controversial phone call that Kyle Sandilands and Jackie O from Austereo recently had where they had encouraged a 14 year old girl to admit her deepest confession whereby the girl had said she was raped at the age of 12 years old.
As a result, Kyle and Jackie have been suspended from working with Austereo indefinitely or at least until the heads can sort out the mess.
I don't like Kyle as a person myself, I think he is a major jerk, but I also think that some of the blame could have been shared by the caller's mother for allowing her to admit what happened on live radio.
What does everybody else reckon?
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3rd August 2009, 04:54 AM
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I hope that both the girl and the stepmother are actually getting the help and counselling they need.
Hopefully Austereo replace Kyle and O with a good-natured and genuinely funny breakfast program, something like Hamish and Andy.
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3rd August 2009, 10:22 PM
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Reps: 17,512,569,333,743 (power: 0) | | | A lot of people have had theirs hands in this and they all share a portion of the blame.
The biggest issue with Kyle is his fame, and how he profits from controversy.
The mother in comparison profited little. | 
4th August 2009, 09:11 PM
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it's sick and anybody who disagrees is sick
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5th August 2009, 12:54 AM
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Reps: 17,512,569,333,743 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by WESTERNdeitySIXmoths it's sick and anybody who disagrees is sick
I don't think anyone disagrees with you here.
Alas, parental abuse is all too common.
The Mother could be a high functioning person who have undiagnosed Bordeline personality disorder.
I'm very familiar with that kind of abuse.
Of course in our society all Mothers are automatically considered saints. | 
5th August 2009, 11:44 AM
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and i don't know whence your familiarity with "that kind of abuse" comes but i'm sorry regardless
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6th August 2009, 04:23 AM
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In this case they certainly didn't know tha answer and if the did want to know the answer, they hadn't thought through the possible responses. | 
6th August 2009, 07:34 AM
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Reps: 66,270,066,540 (power: 66,270,076) | | | I think Kyle (and Jackie O and the station producers) made a big mistake, they really should have thought about what they were doing before they did it, the least they could have done was not record it live.
The Mother is the most to blame because she knew what had happen to her daughter, she was the one that subjected her daughter to public humiliation. If she didn't see that the connection could be made between strapping he daughter to a lie detector and asking her about her sexual experiences and the fact that he daughter was raped, then she's a moron and that does not make it ok.
Maybe she has some sort of mental illness that could explain why she thought it was good idea, but that is still NOT an excuse.
Kyle is an easy target, that's why he's bearing the majority of the blame.
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6th August 2009, 01:38 PM
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Reps: 5,308,064,773,572 (power: 5,308,064,778) | | | i'm glad you said that being a moron/having a mental illness is not an excuse because many would try to tell us that it is
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6th August 2009, 02:46 PM
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Reps: 17,512,569,333,743 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by WESTERNdeitySIXmoths i'm glad you said that being a moron/having a mental illness is not an excuse because many would try to tell us that it is
It's not an excuse it's an explanation of her abhorrent behaviour. |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode | | | |