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Old 3rd August 2009, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
Well, when I get it in Writing from the Creator of the universe, I tend to believe it.
Please, if you have access to words actually written by God himself, show me where to find them! Of course, I know you ren't going to claim that words written by men could be the same thing as "God's word", not without some sort of evidence to back up the claim.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 12:12 AM
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Please, if you have access to words actually written by God himself, show me where to find them! Of course, I know you ren't going to claim that words written by men could be the same thing as "God's word", not without some sort of evidence to back up the claim.
QV please: 16 .
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Old 3rd August 2009, 12:23 AM
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He is credited with writing it all --- as any amanuensis would testify.

Note the following letter:
Dear Mr Smith,

Please be advised of our schedule change for next week.

Sincerely,

Jose Rodriquez

JR:ss
This letter is from whom, and what are those letters: 'ss'?
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
QV please: 16 .
Please prepare to receive correspondence from the Prince of Nigeria. Do whatever he says, it's legit.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by gaara4158 View Post
Please prepare to receive correspondence from the Prince of Nigeria. Do whatever he says, it's legit.
It better be one doosey of a correspondence.
  1. It better come from three different continents.
  2. It better come in three different languages.
  3. It better have been sent by 40+ men.
  4. It better have taken 1500 years to write.
  5. It better have Nigeria's history written in advance, and fulled so far with 100% accuracy.
  6. It better have been preserved with an accuracy of ∆HBible = 0.
  7. Its author better have generated two superpowers under its aegis.
  8. Its author's son better have split time into two different ways to record it.
I could go on, but I'm afraid this Prince of Nigeria recognizes futility when he sees it.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 01:51 AM
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It better have Nigeria's history written in advance, and fulled so far with 100% accuracy.
Ah... this claim again... I count one (1) unambiguous fulfilled prophecy in the who Bible. Where are the others?
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QV please: 16 and 16.
QV please: 19
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
We call that diabolical plagiarism.
On whos behalf? Bible is much younger than many other religious texts. Not only that, most of the stories in Bible are diabolical plagiarism.
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Originally Posted by AV1611VET View Post
It better be one doosey of a correspondence.
  1. It better come from three different continents.
  2. It better come in three different languages.
  3. It better have been sent by 40+ men.
  4. It better have taken 1500 years to write.
  5. It better have Nigeria's history written in advance, and fulled so far with 100% accuracy.
  6. It better have been preserved with an accuracy of ∆HBible = 0.
  7. Its author better have generated two superpowers under its aegis.
  8. Its author's son better have split time into two different ways to record it.
I could go on, but I'm afraid this Prince of Nigeria recognizes futility when he sees it.
Do you believe the Bible is true because it meets these standards, or do you hold everything to these standards because you believe the Bible is true?
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"I'd love to hear the "et cetera". What is watervapor? H20. What is H20? What is hydrogen? What is an atom? What is a quark? etc...

Will science tell us the whole truth, and nothing but the truth someday?"

aal the way down it's all energy....
E=MC^2 remember.
the question is what are the smallest particles and what are their properties.
no god is required to explain ANYTHING here. EXCEPT if you want to go into the illusion of "perfection" of these properties and our human needs.

ofc that is easily explained by "we evolved in this universe, this universe didn't evolve for us"

but the you missed the point apparently. you cannot take a unknown phenomena, then claim "goddidit" and say you explained something, because you obviously haven't. all you did is label another "unknown".

science goes to explain how stuff happens, eg, why the watervapor condenses and falls as rain, why it happens when hot air humid meets cold air, why some water particles are heavier then others, why water is a dipolar molecule, why NO2, formes acid rain, ECT.
same goes for how we got here.
saying "god made us" doesn't tell us jack about how we got here.
it doesn't explain why our phisiology works the way it does, it doesn't explain why we are so similar to other animals, it doesn't explain the fossil record.

all you're doing is labelign one unknown with another unknown and then claiming it has answered something and then use that to support the existence of your being that supposidly "did it".

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