All reasonable, right up to the point where you said "I'll tell you why."
You'd like to think that you've been clued in as to some sort of cosmic reason for everything, and you know why and how the universe is the way it is. It gives you comfort. You'd rather "know" something than not know, wouldn't you? Even if what you "know" is imaginary.
At least science can freely admit to not knowing, which gives it the drive to FIND OUT, rather than just accept the first ancient book that has a few stone-age guesses in it.
Science can also freely admit it's wrong, and correct itself, whereas you constantly seem to always claim the Bible is right, no matter what. What would the world be like if everyone thought that way?
Oh, right, people would put God before modern medicine, and we'd basically regress to the Dark Ages. Smeg, people might even start drilling holes in people's heads to release the "evil spirits", again.
You'd like to think that you've been clued in as to some sort of cosmic reason for everything, and you know why and how the universe is the way it is.
Well, when I get it in Writing from the Creator of the universe, I tend to believe it.
Originally Posted by Job 28:26
When he made a decree for the rain, and a way for the lightning of the thunder:
You, on the other hand, obviously refuse to take God at His [written] Word, therefore you're still looking.
Originally Posted by Alunyel
At least science can freely admit to not knowing, which gives it the drive to FIND OUT, rather than just accept the first ancient book that has a few stone-age guesses in it.
Then what's taking you so long to find out?
If you have this 'drive to find out', you don't seem to be taking it too seriously.
Well, when I get it in Writing from the Creator of the universe, I tend to believe it.You, on the other hand, obviously refuse to take God at His [written] Word, therefore you're still looking.Then what's taking you so long to find out?
If you have this 'drive to find out', you don't seem to be taking it too seriously.
Psss God didn't Write the Bible.
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Spoiler for Some Good Rules for Christians:
Luke 10:27 (Love God Above All, And Your Neighbor as yourself) And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 7:12 (Do unto others)
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 5:43-48 (Pray for those that persecute you)
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Luke 6:27-29 (Love your enemies.)
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
Originally Posted by Saint Augustine
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If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books.
Isaiah 8:12-13 (NIV) "Do not call conspiracy everything that these people call conspiracy; do not fear what they fear, and do not dread it. The Lord Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread."
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A lot of books have been written by people, claiming the main character to be the creator of the universe.
Why do you not believe every single one of them?
Why would I take "God at His Written Word", when the total amount of evidence to support "God at His Written Word" ammounts to zero, yet most evidence we have contradicts "God at His Written Word". We're not that guilliable.
It's taking us so long to find out, because we're actually working it out, rather than jus' saying "Oh, I read it in a book, somewhere." and accepting what we read as the unwavering, ultimate truth, just because it said it is.
Invalid claim as their isn't any God:xx in the bible.
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Spoiler for Some Good Rules for Christians:
Luke 10:27 (Love God Above All, And Your Neighbor as yourself) And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 7:12 (Do unto others)
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 5:43-48 (Pray for those that persecute you)
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Luke 6:27-29 (Love your enemies.)
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
Originally Posted by Saint Augustine
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If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books.
Isaiah 8:12-13 (NIV) "Do not call conspiracy everything that these people call conspiracy; do not fear what they fear, and do not dread it. The Lord Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread."
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Rain is nothing more than H2O that has accumulated enough mass to overcome the natural forces keeping it suspended in air.
It then falls to earth in the form of hydrometeorids.
Now a question for you:
What is the formula for gravity?
It is Gm1m2/r2.
Who set those parameters?
Why is the G a constant? Why is it m x m and not m + m? Why is it r2 and not r3?
I'll tell you why.
God set the parameters 6100 years ago when He moved around the earth in Genesis 1:2.
So, "Yes, Virginia, God does 'cause' the rain."
Wrong. This is the flaw in presuppositionalist apologetics; it assumes that the laws of nature, logic, and reason must be accounted for... then constructs an "Answer" that doesn't need to be accounted for. This is special pleading, which is invalid.
There's no reason to clutter your epistemology with a god.
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Learn as though you were to live forever.
-Mahatma Gandhi
A lot of books have been written by people, claiming the main character to be the creator of the universe.
We call that diabolical plagiarism.
Originally Posted by Alunyel
Why do you not believe every single one of them?
For one thing, they have serious contradictions with each other.
Originally Posted by Alunyel
Why would I take "God at His Written Word", when the total amount of evidence to support "God at His Written Word" ammounts to zero, yet most evidence we have contradicts "God at His Written Word".
The answer is in your question.
Originally Posted by Alunyel
We're not that guilliable.
"Gullible" is not really the term for it; but I'll abstain from further comment.
Originally Posted by Alunyel
It's taking us so long to find out, because we're actually working it out, rather than jus' saying "Oh, I read it in a book, somewhere." and accepting what we read as the unwavering, ultimate truth, just because it said it is.
The Bible just doesn't 'say it' --- It walks Its talk as well.
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