why wait?
he could do it in a jiffy. remake the world, be done with it all.
and why HAS he not done that already?
God exists, creates, & rules, outside humanity's Time/Space periphery.
You don't expect, God to aquiesce to your Timeline... really.
In fact, He has giving you, by virtue of you participating here,
numerous opportunities... God's eventual earth Re-creation.../make ENJOY!
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How much Truth are we expected to surrender before we can adequately embrace science?
None. Remember, science studies God's second book: Creation. God left in Creation evidence of how He created. That's what science figures out.
Unfortunately, some people have tried to make a scientific theory about how God created from their interpretation of Genesis. But God's Creation shows that this interpretation is wrong. It's not about "Truth" with a capital "T". It's about a mistaken human interpretation and human pride versus what God is really telling us.
__________________ "If sound science appears to contradict the Bible, we may be sure that it is our interpretation of the Bible that is at fault." Christian Observer, 1832, pg. 437
"Christians should look on evolution simply as the method by which God works." Rev. James McCosh, theologian and President of Princeton, 1890
How much truth are we expected to surrender before we can adequately embrace christianity?
None. I personally do not find it necessary to "surrender" anything remotely resembling "truth" to embrace Christianity. Most Catholics embrace the theory of evolution as I do whereas many Protestants do not. There seems to be a subjective element to one's belief systems that can vary from individual to individual and I choose to align my beliefs with science, whenever and wherever possible. "Science" isn't always "better than" religion by the way, nor is it immune from a 'herd mentality' that can require a surrendering of 'truth' in order to "conform", just like religion.
__________________ "All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree. All these aspirations are directed toward ennobling man's life, lifting it from the sphere of mere physical existence and leading the individual towards freedom."
"The true value of a human being is determined primarily by the measure and the sense in which he has attained liberation from the self."
"Only a life lived for others is a life worth while."
"When the solution is simple, God is answering."
Albert Einstein
How much truth are we expected to surrender before we can adequately embrace christianity?
None. There is nothing in science to contradict the essential claims of Christianity. Fundamentalism is not Christianity.
Michael, most Protestants accept evolution. And there are some Catholics who reject it: Michael Behe comes immediately to mind. I suggest that, instead of looking at "Protestant" and "Catholic", we look at Christians and Fundamentalists.
__________________ "If sound science appears to contradict the Bible, we may be sure that it is our interpretation of the Bible that is at fault." Christian Observer, 1832, pg. 437
"Christians should look on evolution simply as the method by which God works." Rev. James McCosh, theologian and President of Princeton, 1890
Interestingly enough, fundamentalists and pentacostals tend to have less in the way of formal education. To them, a literal interpretation is the only one that makes sense.
__________________ We are surrounded by endless forms, most beautiful and most wonderful, and it is noaccident, but the direct consequence of evolution by non-random natural selection - the only game in town, the greatest show on Earth. ~R.D.
If your answer is anything other than, 'yes' --- your whole post means nothing to me; and Aquinas & co. make take a hike.
HAHA
Yep... this is the AV I remember.
Asks questions for no reason since he already knows the "Truth."
I remember I had him in this exact same place a few months ago when after some back-and-forth, he finally just said "If you're trying to make me deny the Bible, know now that I never will regardless of what you say" or something to that effect. I still find it fascinating, out of morbid curiosity, that he not only sees nothing wrong with his fear and/or blind faith in the Bible but that he actually believes himself better for it.
None. Remember, science studies God's second book: Creation. God left in Creation evidence of how He created. That's what science figures out.
Unfortunately, some people have tried to make a scientific theory about how God created from their interpretation of Genesis. But God's Creation shows that this interpretation is wrong. It's not about "Truth" with a capital "T". It's about a mistaken human interpretation and human pride versus what God is really telling us.
I've noticed that many Creationists, whether they're willing to admit it or not, use "Truth" as a substitute for "pride."
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Don't talk like one of them. You're not! Even if you'd like to be.
To them, you're just a freak, like me! They need you right now, but when they don't, they'll cast you out, like a leper! You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other.
See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve.
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