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Old 3rd August 2009, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by gennaoanothen View Post
I believe the biggest complaint with the faith message is the prosperity issue, and yes concerning healing, many complain it is not the will of God to heal all.
True but when I refer to the faith message, I refer specifically to that subject "faith". I do agree that the prosperity message is one of the main issues with the WOF movement...
I highlited (bold) above, which is a good question, is it a requirment Biblicly, to be totaly acurate in praying for the right body part? The woman with the issue of blood knew she had an issue of blood, the blind knew they were blind etc. etc.
No, I do not believe that it is necessary to be "totally" accurate in praying for the right body part, but knowing the problem can "help" our faith by being specific with our faith and using faith as a tool.
in 05 I was praying for God to heal a kidney, when in fact it was arthritus, which I did receive healing for, after I had it diagnoised, but there was also another factor involved, I received the healing after I dropped something that should not have been in my life. I only mention that because it may help someone else, who may be praying for healing in their body.
Again, I believe it can be helpful to know the problem, but not always necessary. One can simply have faith in God to keep their entire body whole. If relief isnt experienced soon enough, at that point wisdom should step in and go to the doctor, find out exactly what the mountain is that is in the way causing the sickness and be able to begin praying more specifically.
Providing we have obeyed any prompting of the Spirit and witness in our heart concerning possible broken fellowship with the Father, offense toward others, not walking in love, etc...healing will always come.
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Old 3rd August 2009, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PastorJoey View Post
Providing we have obeyed any prompting of the Spirit and witness in our heart concerning possible broken fellowship with the Father, offense toward others, not walking in love, etc...healing will always come.
Right. Too many quit reading at verse 24 and need to read further



Mark 11:22And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.
23For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
24Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.
25And when ye stand praying, forgive, if ye have ought against any: that your Father also which is in heaven may forgive you your trespasses. 26But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
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Old 9th August 2009, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by J4Jesus View Post
Hello Al

No its not like Christian Science. They deny sickness existed.
WOF believes Jesus paid for our healing and we believe it and recieve it. We don't deny it exists but we can deny the right for it to remain in our body and resist it.

WOF has nothing to do with this article. That wasn't his belief so I don't think anyone should assume WOF people do this sort of thing. Just because a person believes in healing doesn't mean he is WOF. Many Christian groups and denominations believe in healing.

So this is what people mean when they say "Faith Healing?"
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Old 9th August 2009, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Bundy View Post
So this is what people mean when they say "Faith Healing?"
Yes. Faith healing, divine healing, healing through the Word, etc... pretty much describes it.
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Old 10th August 2009, 03:28 AM
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God is a healer, according to Psalms 103, God heals all our diseases as well as forgives all of our sins. BUT the Word also says in Proverbs that wisdom is the principle thing ( in all things). the Bible is a whole book, not a set of isolated concepts. this man was not using wisdom in taking his child to the doctor. according to them, she was diabetic. he could pray and speak God's Word while taking her to the doctor and getting her whatever treatment was needed. prayer, faith and wisdom all work together, along with God's Word. God uses doctors, and they use the knowledge they have, however limited it is. in the end, God is still the Great Physician.
if a doctor does something wrong, it is malpractice. that is why they have insurance and some of them get lawsuits.

it is so sad, that because of ignorance, that a young girl lost her life. the Word says my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. here again, is the Word of God.
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I was wondering if there is any where in the Word of God, where someone went to the doctor and actually got healed?
I see a lot of cases where God healed, in the Word.
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Old 11th August 2009, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gennaoanothen View Post
I was wondering if there is any where in the Word of God, where someone went to the doctor and actually got healed?
I see a lot of cases where God healed, in the Word.
Jesus is the only Healer, period. The only question is whether it comes by natural or supernatural means. God is not limited to the supernatural realm to bring healing and so will met people wherever their faith level is at.
Know also that healing is not God's perfect will....Divine health is God's perfect will, and healing (whether natural or supernatural) is only a means to achieve it.
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Originally Posted by PastorJoey View Post
Jesus is the only Healer, period. The only question is whether it comes by natural or supernatural means. God is not limited to the supernatural realm to bring healing and so will met people wherever their faith level is at.
Know also that healing is not God's perfect will....Divine health is God's perfect will, and healing (whether natural or supernatural) is only a means to achieve it.
Hi, I don't really know much about faith healing so sorry if I am barging in. I just wanted to ask though, I agree that healing comes through God, but in the sense that it comes through the ability and knowledge He has given the doctors who could have saved this girl. My brother is diabetic, and as soon as we realised something bad was going on my parents took him to the doctor. Is it forbidden for those who believe in faith healing to ask for help from anyone who isn't God, even if God has blessed some people with knowledge which could be beneficial? I'm not saying a miracle could never happen and someone could be healed, but ordinarily diabetes requires daily treatment, so I'm just not sure where faith healing would leave sufferers of a chronic illness such as diabetes.
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