I kind of remember something from a psych class that I mostly slept thru...
Basically it was that some people's self image is a construct that involves their always being right.
For them, to accept any exception to that would be something like putting a pinhole in a tight balloon.
Maybe someone more interested in psych that i was or am knows something about that and could explain it better than I did.
A related deal is for biblical absolutists who have to have every word literally true, if any of it isnt, none of it is... that kind of thing. So if it takes a water canopy, or pi=3.000 in those days, its just different now, then that is what it takes, but NO error can ever be allowed.
Glad Im not stuck in that mind set. Imagine what happens if somehow reality does seep thru and they do see that there is Error in themselves or the book.
I saw your link to some chinsey "antique" store that made up a marketing blurb. Now show me some real history books that back up your claim that swords were "worshiped"
Didn't the History Channel also do these battles ?
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Spoiler for Some Good Rules for Christians:
Luke 10:27 (Love God Above All, And Your Neighbor as yourself) And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 7:12 (Do unto others)
Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 5:43-48 (Pray for those that persecute you)
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Luke 6:27-29 (Love your enemies.)
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
Originally Posted by Saint Augustine
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If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason? Reckless and incompetent expounders of holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books.
Isaiah 8:12-13 (NIV) "Do not call conspiracy everything that these people call conspiracy; do not fear what they fear, and do not dread it. The Lord Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread."
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Let's summarize AVET's progress in this thread:
1. Take a story from The Bible with no historical support.
2. Ask for an explaination of it without the Bible as primary source.
3. Conclude that since it is in the Bible that it couldn't have been done without God, therefore God must have done it.
4. Ignore the simple fact that the reason the story is in the Bible in the first place is to show that the improbable is possible with God's intervention.
5. Claim people with a college degree are closed-minded because they do not accept your circular reasoning.
6. Claim victory via circular reasoning and end the thread.
Yep. Classic AV (creationist) m.o. Tautalogical reasoning with a splash of strawman thrown in for flare.
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