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Jesus spoke the Truth

Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life"
He also said that the kingdom of heaven is strewn about the earth but men do not see it, and that if you put on the mind of truth, nothing that is hidden will not be revealed unto you.
My favorite is that he said "you must become like a little child to enter the kingdom of heaven".
There are many ways people do not have the mind of truth, or a mind as truthful as a child. A child sees what is there, not what he thinks should be. Humans have created the image of God (which actually means That Which Is) that they worship; they worship themselves. They cannot separate their egos from reality. Their "I" is imposed on everything they see. But if you put on the mind of truth and see things without deciding what you want to see, you see That Which Is, which exists everywhere eternally.
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This was a beautiful post, true1. Welcome to CF!

I agree with literally everything you said. "That which is" = God. I can't even explain how much that resounds with me. We must become like children and see the world truly, nothing separate, but with out the ignorance of childhood. We will see everything as one, but when we learn the truth, we will see everything as interconnected. Truth is self-evident.

What you said reminded me of a book that I have been reading that you might like to check out. The way it interprets Jesus is so true and beautiful, and it really makes sense to me. It says that God is not a man in the sky as most people believe, but life itself, that which is.

It is called The Present (with religion), a free book at http://www.thetruthcontest.com

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That which is: The literal meaning of the word “truth” is “that which is.”
The living truth = that which is.
That which is = the present.
That which is = God.

“GOD” is an ancient word that literally means “That Which Is.” G stands for “that,” O stands for “which” and D stands for “is.” God is “that which is.”

The Bible says; God describes himself as “I am as I am.”
That is clear.

In other words, God is saying he is “that which is;” he is life itself.
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Open up the present if you have time and share your thoughts please!
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Jesus ...also said that the kingdom of heaven is strewn about the earth but men do not see it, and that if you put on the mind of truth, nothing that is hidden will not be revealed unto you.
Welcome to CF! I like Your post! Where is the above passage in the Bible? I would like to study it.

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Hi Razz Man!
Thanks so much for the welcome. Since you want to study Jesus' word, here is a link to the most beautiful collection of Jesus quotes I have ever seen (and also contains the quote above), thepearl.org/Sayings_of_Jesus.htm

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Originally Posted by true1 View Post
Hi Razz Man!
Thanks so much for the welcome. Since you want to study Jesus' word, here is a link to the most beautiful collection of Jesus quotes I have ever seen (and also contains the quote above), thepearl.org/Sayings_of_Jesus.htm

Peace.
I like that collection very much. Here is the clickable link! Sayings of Jesus

The time has come for the veil to be lifted, so that we can put on the mind of truth, as you said in your post. We can know the truth, and we can and will use it to fight deception. We must overcome the mind, the beast within. We must overcome, or we will destroy ourselves an go extinct. The book I shared with you in my first reply to this forum reveals the unseen truth for the first time, and correctly interprets Jesus' spoken word. It separates the wheat from the chaff in the Bible. We can now know the truth, use it to overcome our minds, become the son of man (son of mind), and we will be changed in the twinkling of an eye as it spreads on the Internet.
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Thanks Jethro!
By the way I checked out "the present" (with religion) on thetruthcontest website, and it is really inspiring. It has some of the most amazing interpretations I have ever seen of Jesus' words. I think these could help anyone, religious or not, and make heaven on earth. Lets not let Jesus' efforts go to waste, it would be a tragedy.
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That stuff isn't from Jesus. Made to sound a little bit like the way He talks, then it veers off into nonsense which is designed to suit the flesh.
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Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life"
He also said that the kingdom of heaven is strewn about the earth but men do not see it, and that if you put on the mind of truth, nothing that is hidden will not be revealed unto you.
My favorite is that he said "you must become like a little child to enter the kingdom of heaven".
There are many ways people do not have the mind of truth, or a mind as truthful as a child. A child sees what is there, not what he thinks should be. Humans have created the image of God (which actually means That Which Is) that they worship; they worship themselves. They cannot separate their egos from reality. Their "I" is imposed on everything they see. But if you put on the mind of truth and see things without deciding what you want to see, you see That Which Is, which exists everywhere eternally.

If one is born again, they have the heart and mind of Christ in the Holy Spirit -- same Holy Spirit which created the Heavens and the earth lives in the hearts of Christians.

Jesus did not speak of a "mind of truth" and those other saying are deceptive and go against the gospels we do have, also the Spirit within confirms this.


1 john 2

4See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. 25And this is what he promised us—even eternal life. 26I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. 27As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.



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