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I must admit, I had no idea there were so many interpretations given to that one passage of scripture. Whilst on the one hand, various interpretations are unavoiable, because the human heart is desperately wicked, and furthermore, not everyone reading and commenting on the bible actaully hears from God. That said, amongst the remnant whom God has called there SHOULD be one uniform belief as to this important passage of script, and no scripture is is of any private interpretatoin. Im convinced my view is the Lord's view, it would take some compelling evidence to change my mind.
Im convinced my view is the Lord's view, it would take some compelling evidence to change my mind.
If you want compelling evidence, take a geology course and a biology course. And I don't mean go look up wikipedia or youtube, I mean take actual college level courses on those subjects. Ask the instructor the right questions, you will get all the compelling evidence you need.
I must admit, I had no idea there were so many interpretations given to that one passage of scripture. Whilst on the one hand, various interpretations are unavoiable, because the human heart is desperately wicked, and furthermore, not everyone reading and commenting on the bible actaully hears from God. That said, amongst the remnant whom God has called there SHOULD be one uniform belief as to this important passage of script, and no scripture is is of any private interpretatoin. Im convinced my view is the Lord's view, it would take some compelling evidence to change my mind.
Of course you think your interpretation is more in line with God's. All people tend to see their view as more consistent with the Lord's than everybody else's. That's the definition of private interpretation. It's only after one is more willing to accept that one may be mistaken that one is able to enter into the public discourse and contribute in a meaningful way.
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valuecard, of course you believe your view is the Lord's view, everybody believe there view is bibically correct. You are not telling me anything that I already know. Of course you believe you "hear from God" that when you interpret Scriptures, the Lord is telling you how to interpret a specific passage [s]. Everybody does.
Originally Posted by rockytriton
If you want compelling evidence, take a geology course and a biology course. And I don't mean go look up wikipedia or youtube, I mean take actual college level courses on those subjects. Ask the instructor the right questions, you will get all the compelling evidence you need.
He should, but he will not like the answers. There are abundance of evidence that prove that the Earth is not 6,000 years old. All the evidence suggest that the Earth is 4.6 billion years old. There can't be a "young earth" with all the scientific evidence out there. The Genesis account does not have to be taken literally, nor the days be taken as literal 24 hour time period.
You want compelling evidence valuecard? Go to any college/university, and take a course in biology and geology. Ask a professor and look at all the evidence. And if you still walk out believing the Earth is young, you are letting pride override reason.
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Ramon, ive started looking at those links u gave me.
Rockytriton and ramon, i would also point you to something, which i feel is the most logical place to start when looking how old our earth is - and that is by looking at the age of our surrounds, sun, moon and planets and their moons within our solar system. This video by former nasa engineer about the findings of nasa's satelites have greatly contradicted what they expected to find based on old solar system theories and models
Thats just part 1, its a 9 part video that goes through nasa's findings about each planet and moon in our solar system, its both really interesting and really challenging to those who are fully persuased of the billions of years belief system.
The reason i think the Lord spoke to me is, as I explained, I was driving along, not thinking about any of these things, and the distinct words "the age of adam" were zapped into my mind. The following revelation that hit me, in regards to this topic, turned out to be a proof that the six days in genesis are literal. So yes i beleive it was the Lord - information coming from external, info which I didnt know, and info which checks out to be biblically accurate, yes to me that points to God
wow.. I love those moments... and they are verified by His Word.
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The reason i think the Lord spoke to me is, as I explained, I was driving along, not thinking about any of these things, and the distinct words "the age of adam" were zapped into my mind. The following revelation that hit me, in regards to this topic, turned out to be a proof that the six days in genesis are literal. So yes i beleive it was the Lord - information coming from external, info which I didnt know, and info which checks out to be biblically accurate, yes to me that points to God
No offense, honestly believe what you want and I respect that, though that can be easily explained by how our brains work. Such a thing is not even an uncommon thing.
The reason i think the Lord spoke to me is, as I explained, I was driving along, not thinking about any of these things, and the distinct words "the age of adam" were zapped into my mind. The following revelation that hit me, in regards to this topic, turned out to be a proof that the six days in genesis are literal. So yes i beleive it was the Lord - information coming from external, info which I didnt know, and info which checks out to be biblically accurate, yes to me that points to God
Understand from our perspectives, though. You are advocating a new interpretation of Genesis because you heard a voice. And although it is true, as you point out, that not everybody who interprets Scripture hears from God, you sound unwilling to accept that this may also be the case with you. So I hope you will understand if we are hesitant to receive a new teaching that is contrary to the traditional interpretations and appears to contradict natural discovery.
Ultimately, to make your case, you will have to address why the Church has been in the dark for so long -- and why reality doesn't line up with what can be perceived. This is my advice for your own internal analysis of what you have experienced, too. If a voice told me something that was inconsistent with both of those things it would take a lot for me to think that it was from God -- not that it couldn't be, but that so many godly people would have been so ignorant of hermeneutics for so many centuries, and so many observers of nature would have been moving in such drastically wrong directions within their fields of inquiry.
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