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View Poll Results: Are infants and young children members of the Church ? | |
Yes
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No
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18th August 2004, 01:37 PM
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18th August 2004, 01:41 PM
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Reps: 882 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Oblio Please vote
You would have to define church membership, because in the Lutheran Church Infants are baptized and members of the Apostolic Church, however, they have not recieved confirmation yet which gives "church" membership, voting rights etc.
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18th August 2004, 01:49 PM
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Reps: 2,930 (power: 13) | | Originally Posted by JVAC You would have to define church membership, because in the Lutheran Church Infants are baptized and members of the Apostolic Church, however, they have not recieved confirmation yet which gives "church" membership, voting rights etc.
-James
I would have to agree with you James. The poll is too ambiguous in the answers provided. I am Lutheran so your definition best fits for us.
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18th August 2004, 02:02 PM
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Your question might be better phrased if you were to ask if they were "written in the Lamb's Book of Life." You may want to do a study of this and look into the terms "from the foundation of the world", or "before the foundation of the world", or "the book". You might be pleasantly surprised.
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18th August 2004, 02:11 PM
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18th August 2004, 02:19 PM
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Reps: 47,556 (power: 77) | | Originally Posted by Dad Ernie Greetings Oblio,
Your question might be better phrased if you were to ask if they were "written in the Lamb's Book of Life." You may want to do a study of this and look into the terms "from the foundation of the world", or "before the foundation of the world", or "the book". You might be pleasantly surprised.
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While I appreciate the idea, I was looking for the answer to my question WRT children and Church membership. Being a member of the Church does not guarantee that your name is written in the 'Book of Life'.
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18th August 2004, 02:30 PM
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18th August 2004, 03:07 PM
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Reps: 33,707,381 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by Lotar If they have been baptized.
The Anabaptists similarly connect baptism and church membership. Since we don't baptize infants, the answer for us would be "no," but not based solely on their age. |
18th August 2004, 05:56 PM
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Reps: 47,869,504,486,311 (power: 47,869,504,497) | | | I do not believe infants and children are members of the "church" as in voting rights, expected to tithe or take on any other responsibilities. But I do believe children and infants who have been baptized are members of God's family of faith.
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18th August 2004, 06:10 PM
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