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How do you know the universe had a beginning? I'm looking for an answer outside of scripture.
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25th July 2009, 04:07 PM
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Is that allowed?
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26th July 2009, 09:03 AM
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Reps: 219,801,598,516,757 (power: 219,801,598,521) | | Originally Posted by philadiddle How do you know the universe had a beginning? I'm looking for an answer outside of scripture.
Because scientists keep telling us so, and that agrees with what God is telling us.
I am pretty sure that the 'steady state' theory has now been totally disregarded.
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26th July 2009, 09:19 AM
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I am pretty sure that the 'steady state' theory has now been totally disregarded.
And yet the ultimate steady state theorist, Hoyle, is such a beloved Creationist PRATT with that "tornado in junkyard" gibberish. |
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Reps: 10,219,569,387,278,330 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by marktheblake The one thing I like about Hoyle is that he is not a Christian, so it goes to show that not all creationist pratts are christians.
Never said they were. However, spend any more than the briefest of periods discussing this topic and you'll come across Hoyle's tornado... I find it ironic that Creationists carry Hoyle, a steady state, exogenesis supporting athiest before them as one of their standards. |
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I am pretty sure that the 'steady state' theory has now been totally disregarded.
Are there specific evidences that scientists use that makes you think the universe has a beginning? So basically, if you were explaining why you think the universe has a beginning and you were explaining it to an atheist who was ignorant of science, what scientific evidence would you give him?
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What is a PRATT? |
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