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Old 5th September 2009, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by marktheblake View Post
No, God will not terminate you instantly just because you committed a sin. God has mercy, he hopes that all will repent and turn back to him. Those that do not repent are served with justice.
What about all of the new born babies who died in The Flood?
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Old 5th September 2009, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JustMeSee View Post
What about all of the new born babies who died in The Flood?

"Caedite eos! Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius" – "Kill them [all]! Surely the Lord discerns which [ones] are his". --- Papal legate Arnaud-Amaury, as quoted by the Cistercian writer Caesar of Heisterbach 1209 CE

The logic is impeccable, given the premises.

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Originally Posted by marktheblake View Post
No, God will not terminate you instantly just because you committed a sin. God has mercy, he hopes that all will repent and turn back to him. Those that do not repent are served with justice.
May I ask how old you are?

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Originally Posted by godsmission View Post
May I ask how old you are?
You may ask if you explain first why you want to know, and why bring up a post from 10 pages ago to ask.
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Old 6th September 2009, 11:21 AM
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This is a long thread. Much of which is round about and off topic. I asked my question midstream because I was actively reading and didn't want to forget to ask it.

... I realize it was already answered
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[qs]....given the fact that the proposition, "God created the universe", is a completely unprovable proposition within the realm of science.....[/qs]

You neglected to mention that ANY theory is completely unprovable. The question is, as always, what best fits the facts that we DO have.
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Originally Posted by BananaSlug View Post
It never actually states that nothing died before the fall. Adam and Eve were immortal only because they ate from the Tree of Life. If nothing else ate from it, they would die.
Adam ate from the tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, not the tree of life. God hid the tree of life so that they would not live forever.

Genesis 3:22-24

"Then the LORD God said, 'Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever—' therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden to work the ground from which he was taken. He drove out the man, and at the east of the garden of Eden he placed the cherubim and a flaming sword that turned every way to guard the way to the tree of life." (ESV)
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I'm not a Homo sapiens --- I have a Sin Nature.
So I guess you are a homo creatonistus, a species thought by some scientists to be closely related to homo sapiens.
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Originally Posted by SkyWriting View Post
[qs]....given the fact that the proposition, "God created the universe", is a completely unprovable proposition within the realm of science.....[/qs]

You neglected to mention that ANY theory is completely unprovable. The question is, as always, what best fits the facts that we DO have.

It does seem as everyone but the creationists knows that one does not prove a theory. over and over..."but evolution is Just a Theory!"
or, "you cant prove evolution." or the endless permutations.

Good that you got it; no need really for you to try to tell people on the science side about it tho.

And yes, the q or problem is to find a theory that best fits the facts,

That is why of the worlds literate population, only a Christian cult finds the facts point to a miraculous god; but of course they do that by reasoning backwards, ala red queen "first the verdict, then the trial".

Even that is not enough; it is necessary also to ignore or distort, and misrepresent the facts and data, ad hom all the scientists (deluded minions of the devil, naturalistic materialist, atheistic assumptions etc) and of course, there is always lies and fraud to fall back on. (see Paluxy man tracks, among others)

But really, it all sums in one simple concept, that the theocreos seem to avoid dealing with, which is.... there is no data that supports creationism.
There is no relevant data that does not support the ToE.

IF someone has a data point for creationism they really should bring it out.
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