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Old 26th July 2009, 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by philadiddle View Post
So which argument did he use that's so 1337 that I missed out on because I don't have a degree in theology?
I'd rather not type out his entire opening speech. Why don't you talk more specifically about what you didn't like and we'll go from there.


Originally Posted by philadiddle View Post
The professionals he goes up against such as... Hitchens?
I like that. Discredit all the people he's debated based on 1. Good job. You win the arguing with rhetoric and no substance award.

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I listened to the show. Interesting, and I always love debates between the two sides that are open and cordial.

I do think the ID guy did not explain away the "God of the gaps" argument very well. I still don't understand how you can look for evidence of "HERE is where God is!" and not automatically downgrade God's involvement in the rest of it. As if the natural is not God's creation or is a lesser sign than God's supernatural hand.
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Originally Posted by Siyha View Post
I'd rather not type out his entire opening speech. Why don't you talk more specifically about what you didn't like and we'll go from there.
I'll start a new thread about it.

Originally Posted by Siyha View Post
I like that. Discredit all the people he's debated based on 1. Good job. You win the arguing with rhetoric and no substance award.

Pwned.

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I was merely trying to make fun of Hitchens, cause we all know he is the Kent Hovind of atheists. I guess the humor got lost on you and you would rather turn it around into an insult instead of responding with some substance, such as naming specific oppents who have reputable credentials. You win the arguing with rhetoric and no substance award.
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Originally Posted by crawfish View Post
I listened to the show. Interesting, and I always love debates between the two sides that are open and cordial.
Yes, it is refreshing.

I do think the ID guy did not explain away the "God of the gaps" argument very well.
There is no such thing as a God of the Gaps argument.

I still don't understand how you can look for evidence of "HERE is where God is!" and not automatically downgrade God's involvement in the rest of it. As if the natural is not God's creation or is a lesser sign than God's supernatural hand.
I don't understand why you think this choice is required. No one is downgrading God's involvement in anything. God's glory is in the natural and the supernatural.

Asking why God does things has never been of much interest to me. I consider myself the clay. He is the potter. I see through a glass darkly.
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Originally Posted by philadiddle View Post
..., such as naming specific oppents who have reputable credentials.
You notice I did list his debates and many are with credentialed and reputable professionals in their field - for example Victor Stenger and Quentin Smith are degreed university professors. The former is the darling of the atheist community and is almost as popular as Dawkins in these circles. There are many others.
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Originally Posted by philadiddle View Post
I was merely trying to make fun of Hitchens, cause we all know he is the Kent Hovind of atheists. I guess the humor got lost on you and you would rather turn it around into an insult instead of responding with some substance, such as naming specific oppents who have reputable credentials. You win the arguing with rhetoric and no substance award.
I see. You are just trying to cover your tracks now because I did this to your last post.
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Bisbing had it coming.
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Originally Posted by philadiddle View Post
Bisbing had it coming.
Wasn't that such a good fight? I mean, Henderson just walked all over him the whole time. That whole event was good. My only complaint from that night is that GSP didn't finish Thiago. Five round decisions don't make for exciting times... Tim Silvia knows that.
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Originally Posted by Siyha View Post
Wasn't that such a good fight? I mean, Henderson just walked all over him the whole time.
The funniest part is that Bisbing was scared the whole time, and at the end of the 1st round his corner told him to stop walking to Henderson's right, and in the second round he kept circling into Henderson's power hand, which is how he got ended. At least we won't have to hear him run his mouth for a while.

Originally Posted by Siyha View Post
That whole event was good. My only complaint from that night is that GSP didn't finish Thiago. Five round decisions don't make for exciting times... Tim Silvia knows that.
GSP's had a few decisions lately which is disappointing. Any word on who he's fighting next?

I love how big and purple Mir's face was at the end of night. It was the icing on the cake for the evening.
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I don't want to enter into this debate but I'm not able to utilise long audio or video files right now and I was wondering if this transcript; The Craig-Curley Debate: The Existence of the Christian God, was a good or poor example of Craig debating.
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