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Old 13th October 2009, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackSabb View Post
Exactly. Thank you. The day that fundamentalist Islam creeps into Britian is the day that Britainers will rethink did they really win WW2?

Because given a choice between Hitler invading Britian or Islam, I'll gladly take Nazism anyday. At least with Nazism, you won't be at risk of being publicly flogged for talking to a woman who is not your wife.
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Old 13th October 2009, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Supreme View Post
Yes, because it's not like you're the resident Islamophobe or anything!
Originally Posted by Eazy E View Post
Muslims make up almost 23% of the world's population, yet the nation that worships violence and basks in sinful nature according to Allah SWT is a majority Christian nation. Get over your self.
I evaluate Islam based on its verifiable record, not the flowery pronouncements and promises of its followers. And that record is dismal and bloody indeed, a trail of mayhem and misogyny spanning multiple continents. Islam truly does have a reverse Midas touch.

Seems to me your time would be better spent bringing about a Reformation in Islam to bring it out of the Dark Ages rather than scorning me for telling it like it is. Truth hurts, but a frank and open acknowledgment of truth is essential to bringing about improvement and progress.
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Old 14th October 2009, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNewWorldMan View Post
I evaluate Islam based on its verifiable record, not the flowery pronouncements and promises of its followers. And that record is dismal and bloody indeed, a trail of mayhem and misogyny spanning multiple continents. Islam truly does have a reverse Midas touch.
As if Christianity has such a wonderful track record itself. You guys have conquered more peoples and nations, killed more in the name of God. Can we take a more recent case of the Bosnian war?

Bosnian Muslims Were Killed By the Truckload

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Seems to me your time would be better spent bringing about a Reformation in Islam to bring it out of the Dark Ages rather than scorning me for telling it like it is. Truth hurts, but a frank and open acknowledgment of truth is essential to bringing about improvement and progress.
Seems to me you need to educate yourself concerning Islam period. I'm not gonna sit here and say that we have a small minority of Muslims that are causing problems, but it's the self-professed Christian nation that is killing Muslims and Christians in the MidEast and SW Asia right now. On top of which, the US Gov't is supplying Israel with the tools to kill Muslims and Christians in Palestine. During Muslim rule, we never killed other Muslims unless it was in self-defense. During the Crusades, the Chruch and Christians killed anyone and said God will sort them out. Who's past is more bloody and reviled now?
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Originally Posted by Eazy E View Post
As if Christianity has such a wonderful track record itself. You guys have conquered more peoples and nations, killed more in the name of God.
And that justifies murder in the name of Allah, I suppose?

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Seems to me you need to educate yourself concerning Islam period. I'm not gonna sit here and say that we have a small minority of Muslims that are causing problems, but it's the self-professed Christian nation that is killing Muslims and Christians in the MidEast and SW Asia right now. On top of which, the US Gov't is supplying Israel with the tools to kill Muslims and Christians in Palestine. During Muslim rule, we never killed other Muslims unless it was in self-defense. During the Crusades, the Chruch and Christians killed anyone and said God will sort them out. Who's past is more bloody and reviled now?
You're both as bad as each other. It doesn't matter if you religion the lesser of two evils, it's still evil. It leads inexorably to evil, despite the claims of its more passive believers.

I'm a theoretical Communist, which means I believe that communism, in theory, is a superior economic system. But I don't push for communism. Why? Because history has proven such a push to be bloodthirsty and dangerous, and ultimately futile.
Likewise, despite the promises of Islam, it never makes good on them. It's all very well saying that 'real' Islam doesn't condone violence, stoning of women, martyrdom, etc, but that doesn't change the fact that Islam does indeed lead to such things.

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Anyway, as to the OP: while I'm all for arbitration like this (if both parties agree to the decision of the arbiter, go for it), I'm appalled that Muslims are calling for a full upheaval of the British legal system in favour of full Sharia law.

Sharia? In my legal system? I don't think so.
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From the article:
"A spokesman for the Islamic Society of Britain said: “99.999 per cent of Muslims despise these people. This only serves to fuel racial ­tensions.”"

By no means all Muslims support this, just as not all Christians support the death penalty for homosexuality, and just as not all atheists think political dissidents should be sent to Siberia.
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From the article:
"A spokesman for the Islamic Society of Britain said: “99.999 per cent of Muslims despise these people. This only serves to fuel racial ­tensions.”"

By no means all Muslims support this, just as not all Christians support the death penalty for homosexuality, and just as not all atheists think political dissidents should be sent to Siberia.
Every time I try and make a point, this guy just comes and says it for me.
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