Why Christian not allowed eat to pig?

Often, once I have had my say, I will drop it when I see others discounting what is written in the Bible, because my thoughts are that the writers have made up their minds and saying anything to them will not change anything -- it is then up to the Almighty to speak to them. I was going to do that here, but . . .

I have decided to make an exception.

First of all, I will reiterate the following:

according to Peter, the vision had nothing to do with what he ate; rather, it had everything to do with acceptance of believers who are not Jews. See Acts 10:34 - 48. The Bible does not say that Peter quit eating kosher.

Also, in Acts 21:21 - 24, Paul says that he kept Torah and taught others to do the same, and the leaders were quite relieved that he did.

You and I both know that Paul was the main writer in the latter Scriptures. The leaders made sure, in Acts, that he was following Torah, and sanctioned his proving that he followed Torah through doing the Nazerite vow, which is followed by a sacrifice in the Tample. The leaders also sanctioned his doing the oath with some young men, paying for their sacrifice procedure at the Temple. Shall we discount Paul and what he wrote, because he and the elders had misunderstood and was wrong about keeping Torah -- and about leading these poor young men astray through supporting their vow and the sacrifice? Or should we throw out what Paul and the elders wrote in the same manner that many have thrown out the "old testament," except for Psalms, Proverbs, and the stories. Shall we distill the Scrtiptures down to these and the Gospels and maybe Revelation?

The Scriptures are clear that we are also not to eat blood. That is easy for anyone who is interested to find and follow.

You may have eaten pig, snake, and shark all your life, and you continue to live, but that means nothing. Whether or not one takes what is written in the Bible seriously is all that means anything in this subject.

Many use Romans 14 as an excuse to eat pork and other forbidden foods, but the fact is that this Scripture was written by people who would not even think of unkosher stuff as food, and it was written to people who understood that, who lived by it, whose main concern was whether the kosher animals had been offered to idols.

Do you understand what fulfill meant when He said He same to fulfill all the Torah and the Prophets? You are going to give it the meaning that you prefer, I know, the the plain meaning is that He came to do all that was in the Torah and the Prophets. He goes on to say that anyone who teaches against the Torah will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. Is being called least all you aspire to? Is this enough for you? This is Scripture -- in Matthew! -- so I guess we have to throw that out also.

Okay! Let's all get out our penknives and start cutting. Take out all the Scriptures that you don't agree with, that you think are obsolete. What's left? Get a tiny three-ring binder, put the holes in the proper places on the pages that are left, and put them in the binder. You don't need the rest of that book -- it's too heavy for you.

May Heaven help us!

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Life is in the blood. Much to say about blood. Pigs on the other hand are just an animal. We are not under the OC rules and regulations. She is not our mother. She is the bond woman who is to be cast out. We are now under the NC where our righteousness is not in what we eat or drink but Christ is our righteousness..

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O Jehovah, our Lord, how majestic is Your name in all the earth; You have set Your glory above the heavens!
Psa 8:2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings, You have ordained strength, because of the ones distressing You, to cause the enemy and the avenger to cease.
Psa 8:3 When I look upon Your heavens, the work of Your fingers: the moon and the stars which You have fixed;
Psa 8:4 what is man that You are mindful of him, and the son of man, that You visit him?
Psa 8:5 For You have made him lack a little from God; and have crowned him with glory and honor.
Psa 8:6 You made him rule over the works of Your hands; You have put all under his feet:
Psa 8:7 all flocks and oxen, and also the animals of the field,
Psa 8:8 the birds of the heavens, and the fish of the sea, all that pass through the sea.
Psa 8:9 O Jehovah, our Lord, how majestic is Your name in all the earth!

Here are some key factors to take into account:

1. not once does Messiah call all animals clean (pig, dog, cat were never considered food to begin with)

2. If Messiah fulfilled everything than there will be no revelation since in order for him to completely fulfill he would have to come a second time.

3. Matt 5:18 "remember that as long as heaven and earth last, not the least point nor the smallest detail of the law/Torah will be done away with - not until the end of all things"

4. Here are some full translations of Matthew 5:17

I have come to bring into actuality the law not to bring the law to an end

I have come to carry out the law not to destroy the law

I have come to measure up to the law not to demolish the law.

5. Through these we can see that if Paul disagree's with Messiah or the Lord in any way, than he's a fake.

Jesus came and Fulfilled the law nailing it to the cross.

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O Jehovah, our Lord, how majestic is Your name in all the earth; You have set Your glory above the heavens!
Psa 8:2 Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings, You have ordained strength, because of the ones distressing You, to cause the enemy and the avenger to cease.
Psa 8:3 When I look upon Your heavens, the work of Your fingers: the moon and the stars which You have fixed;
Psa 8:4 what is man that You are mindful of him, and the son of man, that You visit him?
Psa 8:5 For You have made him lack a little from God; and have crowned him with glory and honor.
Psa 8:6 You made him rule over the works of Your hands; You have put all under his feet:
Psa 8:7 all flocks and oxen, and also the animals of the field,
Psa 8:8 the birds of the heavens, and the fish of the sea, all that pass through the sea.
Psa 8:9 O Jehovah, our Lord, how majestic is Your name in all the earth!

He did come to fulfill it, but it wasnt nailed to a cross the curses were. If the law was nailed to a cross than we would have no hope, and Messiah would never come again.

In my tradition (from my tribe that is), we use the blood and mix it together with the pork, and people really love it ( I don't, but I eat it sometimes). What's interesting is, it becomes a distinction between the Christian and the old animistic people. Because the animistic believe that eating blood will make the soul and body weak. Since the Christian don't believe in this anymore, we eat them. I eat them (even though I don't really like it) to respect the tradition, also to exercise my Christian liberty. As the scriptures say:

Mark 7:18-20 (New International Version)


18"Are you so dull?" he asked. "Don't you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him 'unclean'? 19For it doesn't go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body." (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods "clean.") 20He went on: "What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.'

1 Corinthians 8:8 (New International Version)

8But food does not bring us near to God; we are no worse if we do not eat, and no better if we do.

Colossians 2:16 (New International Version)

16Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.



Colossians 2:20-23 (New International Version)


20Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: 21"Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!"? 22These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence.


So, I would say exercise your Christian liberty!!!!


But remember, do not be harsh to other Christian who refrains from eating them.

Romans 14:5-6 (New International Version)

5One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

When in doubt, FOLLOW CHRIST'S EXAMPLE!

Did Jesus eat pork? (No)

Then as His followers (aka Christians), neither should we.

It's really that simple.

Forget your man made traditions, the crowd and what your taste buds tell you and follow God's specific instructions to the best of your ability He created mankind and all beasts and He knows what's best for His children.

Following in His footsteps,

JF

I have no doubt at all, that Jesus came and saved me, so I can have freedom to do or not to do any man made tradition.


.....and the Gospel is about God's action for our salvation, not about adding more specific instructions for us to follow. Christians are not (just) Christ followers, but most importantly sinners who entrust their salvation into Christ's work at the Cross.

It's really that simple.

Originally Posted by MamaZ

Jesus came and Fulfilled the law nailing it to the cross.

But that is not what the Scriptures say. This is what they say:

having canceled out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against us, which was hostile to us; and He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.

It is not the Torah or Law that was nailed to the cross but the promise of decreed death for disobeying the Torah that was nailed to the cross.

Did He come and abolish the Torah? No! Or else He is a liar, because He said that not even a jot or tittle would be erased until all things are fulfilled. Are they all fulfilled? No! The Bible says,

18 "For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass from the Law until all is accomplished. 19 "Whoever then annuls one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others to do the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever keeps and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Since heaven and earth have not passed away, according to Him neither has the Torah. James didn't think so either -- or Paul or John.

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Forscher wrote:

I have no doubt at all, that Jesus came and saved me, so I can have freedom to do or not to do any man made tradition.

Is not eating pork a "man made tradition"? How did you come to that conclusion? Can you show me the Scripture?

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I was refering to James Fortwright's post, the way he described that I should leave man made tradition, only because it's something that Jesus did not do. I would argue that, because being a Christian is not the same as being a Christ's follower.

About the rest of your post/s, really, I understand the Law (and it's very clear for me throughout the Gospel) differently from your point of view. Again, if you do it for God, and do not rely on it for your salvation, I would say then it's good for you.