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18th July 2009, 11:09 PM
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I'm wondering if any here have kept themselves informed about the Hate Crimes Bill, and what y'all think about it.
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18th July 2009, 11:19 PM
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The recent hate crimes bill, HR 1913, fortunately has this provision at the end of it:
"Nothing in this Act , or the amendments made by this Act , shall be construed to prohibit any expressive conduct protected from legal prohibition by, or any activities protected by, the Constitution."
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18th July 2009, 11:26 PM
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Reps: 70,378,687,404 (power: 70,378,693) | | Originally Posted by twistedsketch  These people ought to link to the specific bill or give its number.
The recent hate crimes bill, HR 1913, fortunately has this provision at the end of it:
"Nothing in this Act , or the amendments made by this Act , shall be construed to prohibit any expressive conduct protected from legal prohibition by, or any activities protected by, the Constitution."
If that provision is still in the Bill, then why was this legislation ever considered by Congress? Seems like to me that this one sentence, if accurate and enforced, pretty much negates whatever the Congress was trying to do with HR 1913.
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18th July 2009, 11:27 PM
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Reps: 16,368,801,345,739 (power: 0) | | | i doubt the disclaimer means a thing, our constitution is good as dead anyway with the patriot act.
I think this drives home the point that rep or dem, we are heading to a centralization that many americans are just nnot going to like.
Hate speech will eventually be designated as a terrorist act. This may sound far fetched but the patriot act gave such a broad definition, that many common crimes could now be legally termed terroristic |
19th July 2009, 12:32 AM
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Reps: 664,114,628,762,749,312 (power: 664,114,628,762,780) | | Originally Posted by Vambram If that provision is still in the Bill, then why was this legislation ever considered by Congress? Seems like to me that this one sentence, if accurate and enforced, pretty much negates whatever the Congress was trying to do with HR 1913.
Democrats have been "Constitutionally challenged" and in denial for most of the last 100 years.
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19th July 2009, 02:37 AM
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19th July 2009, 02:46 AM
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^^^ Enjoy... check out the propaganda in the first 5 minutes especially, and then the breaking of the man at the end |
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If the declaration of independence is correct, then our constitution doesnt 'give us rights' at all. It recognizes that all men were gifted By God Himself with these inalienable rights, and the paper only seeks to protect them. Yes, man can and does assault these God given rights.
If we were to awaken in martial law, police kicking in the doors of christians who wont compromise the gospel and are now seen as terrorists, i dont think it would be too hard to see this. |
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Reps: 203,835,730,560,158,560 (power: 203,835,730,560,180) | | Originally Posted by WolfBitnGodSmittn Jim,
If the declaration of independence is correct, then our constitution doesnt 'give us rights' at all. It recognizes that all men were gifted By God Himself with these inalienable rights, and the paper only seeks to protect them. Yes, man can and does assault these God given rights.
If we were to awaken in martial law, police kicking in the doors of christians who wont compromise the gospel and are now seen as terrorists, i dont think it would be too hard to see this.
Declaration of Independence is another manmade article outlining someone's philosophy. When I read the NT I don't see anything about the faith guaranteeing "life, liberty and pursuit of happiness". In fact the DoI was written by a guy that viewed Scripture as myth and decided to create his own version of the Bible, so I tend to try to avoid those kind of liberals and not put much stock in their philosophies.
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