Help me understand the verse that says This generation will not pass away before Jesus returns. How does the Greek roughly translate to our modern language as I have always struggled with this.
I know we are not to know the day or the hour, but notice we could know the season, the generation, year or even month then. Maybe
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what generation was he speaking about when He said it? He was telling us of the end times, not His generation. SO, IMO the setting forth of the shoot of the fig tree generation began in '48.
born in '48, that generation will see the end times....61 years old now!!!!
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What I don't understand is the Jews wondered in the wilderness until all the generation coming out of Egpyt died and the Bible calls a generation 70 years. So are we counting from that year up until the year 2018 or will most of that generation be in Heaven before the rapture?
I am questioning as the time seems so ripe for His return perhaps now and at least within the next few years...
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Well, regardless who the subject is (I have my opinions and I'm not about to get into that dead-horse debate), the Bible never says that a generation is 70 years, or 40 years, or any other particular length of time.
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Well, regardless who the subject is (I have my opinions and I'm not about to get into that dead-horse debate), the Bible never says that a generation is 70 years, or 40 years, or any other particular length of time.
Technically, it does.
Psa 90:10The length of our days is seventy years-- or eighty, if we have the strength; yet their span is but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away.
Isa 23:15At that time Tyre will be forgotten for seventy years, the span of a king's life. But at the end of these seventy years, it will happen to Tyre as in the song of the prostitute:
God allows a thing to happen for 70 years and then He moves.
Isa 23:17At the end of seventy years, the Lord will deal with Tyre. She will return to her hire as a prostitute and will ply her trade with all the kingdoms on the face of the earth.
Jer 25:11This whole country will become a desolate wasteland, and these nations will serve the king of Babylon seventy years. Jer 25:12"But when the seventy years are fulfilled, I will punish the king of Babylon and his nation, the land of the Babylonians, for their guilt," declares the Lord, "and will make it desolate forever.
Jer 29:10This is what the Lord says: "When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my gracious promise to bring you back to this place.
Jerusalem and Israel were destroyed/dispersed 70 years after the birth of Christ.
Mat 23:34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
Mat 23:35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
Mat 23:36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
Mat 23:37"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
Mat 23:38Look, your house is left to you desolate.
The generation that Jesus was speaking of was the generation that was right in front of Him. It came to pass just as He said it would. Israel has been desolated since 70 AD.
Since there is Biblical precedent for the rebirth of Israel as well as the 70 year thing, I would expect that life on earth will be very different starting in or around 2018...meaning that Jesus will probably be reigning by then.
when it comes to this, I do have some questions, because this does confuse me...
knee-v, if you say the Bible does not tell us how long a generation is, then how do you take into account Number 32:13 or Matthew 1:17?
Numbers 32:13
"And the LORD'S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, was consumed."
Matthew 1:17
"So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations."
when it comes to this, I do have some questions, because this does confuse me...
knee-v, if you say the Bible does not tell us how long a generation is, then how do you take into account Number 32:13 or Matthew 1:17?
Numbers 32:13
"And the LORD'S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, was consumed."
Matthew 1:17
"So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations."
Wandering in the wilderness for forty years does not constitute a generation. They wandered for forty years until all the generation that had done evil in the sight of the Lord was consumed.
The scriptures already cited establish both time periods. But which applies to this question? We notice that Jesus did not say that a new generation would not arise before that time, but that this generation would not pass. That sets the time span, not as the time between one generation and the next (roughly 40 years) but as the length of a lifespan (roughly seventy years.)
It seems to me that Jesus was saying that those who saw all these things begin to come to pass would see it all finished. That sets the time span as 70 years, not 40.
But when did it begin? It does not seem unreasonable to count from the time Israel again became a nation. That was in 1948. If and only if these interpretations are correct, it will all be over in 2018, just nine years from now.
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The scriptures already cited establish both time periods. But which applies to this question? We notice that Jesus did not say that a new generation would not arise before that time, but that this generation would not pass. That sets the time span, not as the time between one generation and the next (roughly 40 years) but as the length of a lifespan (roughly seventy years.)
It seems to me that Jesus was saying that those who saw all these things begin to come to pass would see it all finished. That sets the time span as 70 years, not 40.
But when did it begin? It does not seem unreasonable to count from the time Israel again became a nation. That was in 1948. If and only if these interpretations are correct, it will all be over in 2018, just nine years from now.
I agree.
Could the starting point have been any earlier than May, 1948? Could it have been in 1945 when the Nazi regime fell and they were released from the prison camps and the idea for a state of Israel came into being? There was a UN resolution in Nov, 1947.
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