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22nd July 2009, 06:25 AM
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Reps: 233,147,813,510,988,768 (power: 233,147,813,511,065) | | | Of course God does not hate blacks. But Planned Parenthood and other pro-abortion organizations do. Planned Parenthood's founder, Margaret Sanger, was a promoter of eugenics and advocated reducing the black population. Disgusting isn't it? |
22nd July 2009, 06:30 PM
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Reps: 89,693,552,045,427,408 (power: 89,693,552,045,434) | | Originally Posted by Ave Maria  Of course God does not hate blacks. But Planned Parenthood and other pro-abortion organizations do. Planned Parenthood's founder, Margaret Sanger, was a promoter of eugenics and advocated reducing the black population. Disgusting isn't it?
You know, it's funny, today I was working as a clinic escort outside our local Women's Clinic, and I noticed something...the pro life protesters actively sought out every white woman that came in there, less actively sought out the latina women, and completely ignored the black women. What does THAT say?
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22nd July 2009, 06:45 PM
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Reps: 6,688,658,930,375,081 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by lux et lex You know, it's funny, today I was working as a clinic escort outside our local Women's Clinic, and I noticed something...the pro life protesters actively sought out every white woman that came in there, less actively sought out the latina women, and completely ignored the black women. What does THAT say?
What do you think it means? They were all racists and hated both
of those racial groups? Or that they HOPED those 2 got abortions?
Is that your implication here? Studies have been done on people
where they gravitate towards certain groups out of comfort level....
I know I do but it's mostly becuz of familiarity issues, nothing to
do w/ animosity towards people in any negative way. |
22nd July 2009, 07:04 PM
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I vehemently disagree that PP and other prochoice groups are racist. Women seek abortions for a variety of reasons and most notably it's the inability to properly provide for another person. Unfortunately, in this country, black americans have been disenfranchised and discriminated against from the beginning and struggle to get ahead. That is a larger societal problem reflected in the abortion issue. |
23rd July 2009, 10:04 AM
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Reps: 89,693,552,045,427,408 (power: 89,693,552,045,434) | | Originally Posted by Nadiine What do you think it means? They were all racists and hated both
of those racial groups? Or that they HOPED those 2 got abortions?
Is that your implication here? Studies have been done on people
where they gravitate towards certain groups out of comfort level....
I know I do but it's mostly becuz of familiarity issues, nothing to
do w/ animosity towards people in any negative way.
I'm going to wait for Ave Maria to answer before I respond to this.
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23rd July 2009, 10:10 AM
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Reps: 21,273,403,002,915,972 (power: 21,273,403,002,926) | | Originally Posted by Ave Maria Of course God does not hate blacks. But Planned Parenthood and other pro-abortion organizations do. Planned Parenthood's founder, Margaret Sanger, was a promoter of eugenics and advocated reducing the black population. Disgusting isn't it?
That's quite true, I wonder why it isn't more widely known. Could it be Planned Parenthood's deep pockets (you can read that to say lobbyists) and the (possible) anti-black prejudiced of their membership?
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23rd July 2009, 10:14 AM
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Reps: 21,273,403,002,915,972 (power: 21,273,403,002,926) | | Originally Posted by b.hopeful Lux....I'm also a clinic escort! Small world!
I vehemently disagree that PP and other prochoice groups are racist. Women seek abortions for a variety of reasons and most notably it's the inability to properly provide for another person. Unfortunately, in this country, black americans have been disenfranchised and discriminated against from the beginning and struggle to get ahead. That is a larger societal problem reflected in the abortion issue.
Nice try, but black americans' disenfranchisement has nothing to do with their willingness to have sex outside of marriage and not using birth control.
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23rd July 2009, 11:30 AM
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Reps: 6,688,658,930,375,081 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by rosenherman Nice try, but black americans' disenfranchisement has nothing to do with their willingness to have sex outside of marriage and not using birth control.
you read my mind. . but I don't doubt a post like that would
be accused of prejudism of some sort.
I watched OReilly's program awhile back & he said the stats
show that this racial group does have the highest incidence
of out of wedlock pregnancies.
I truly don't understand why that is, but sex is a choice we
make and no matter what the race or age group, it CAN
be stopped and at the least, birth control could be used. |
23rd July 2009, 06:00 PM
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I agree that racism is wrong and should be stopped. However that alone does not mean that Planned Parenthood as a whole is racist. It should be noted that many within the church also held/hold this position. Take church supported American Indian schools for example. At some of the schools, kids would get beaten bloody by the schools officals for simply speaking a language other than English. Other so called Christians even had the audacity to preach that killing Indians so the government could take Indian land was God's will! And lastly, the AME church was founded because one of the White Methodists congregations(St. George's in Philly) wouldn't allow any Black people to worship in their main sanctuary. When they tried to do so, the church officals pulled them off of their knees in the middle of praying and carried them out of the church.
Are there racist people in Planned Parenthood? Yes. Are there racist people in the pro-life organizations? Yep. Just because Margaret believed in eugenics does not mean that all the officals in Planned Parenthood today agree with her any more than all Christians agree with the actions of the officals in St George's or the Indian schools.
So remember, whenever the pro-life organizations/churches point a finger at Planned Parenthood and call it racist, they have three fingers pointing back at them.
Studies have been done on people
where they gravitate towards certain groups out of comfort level
Ministries should reach out to everyone, just as Jesus said to do.
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23rd July 2009, 07:08 PM
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I know this, but my post was responding to most likely the secular.
People should never assume that just becuz people are pro Life
that they're automatically Christian.
Muslims are anti abortion as are other religions.
And my atheist relatives were pro life
And the truth is, she could only Speculate as to why they
approached one group (and even then we're only going on
her say-so....??).
We have to be careful about hearing things and the opinions
we form on them and where we take it. =) | | |
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