Forced Flu Vaccine?

Christsfreeservant · #11 15th July 2009, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by wlajoie74

There is a great thread with a balance of views and opinions on this subject. http://www.christianforums.com/t7382425/

Thank you for sharing this link with me. I did look through the thread and read some of the posts, and it was quite educational. The Lord has given me understanding, I believe, of this dream this morning in relation to this passage of scripture, and I did notice an interesting parallel between one verse and one of the posts on that thread.

V. 11 speaks of a people who "spread a table for Fortune and fill bowls of mixed wine for Destiny" that God will destine them for the sword. I saw both the "fortune" that the government and these pharmacies make off of the creation of this vaccine (and, perhaps the creation of the virus itself which then necessitates a vaccine), and perhaps, as well, a more sinister motive behind both the creation of the virus and the vaccine.

brinny · #12 15th July 2009, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Christsfreeservant

Thank you for sharing this link with me. I did look through the thread and read some of the posts, and it was quite educational. The Lord has given me understanding, I believe, of this dream this morning in relation to this passage of scripture, and I did notice an interesting parallel between one verse and one of the posts on that thread.

V. 11 speaks of a people who "spread a table for Fortune and fill bowls of mixed wine for Destiny" that God will destine them for the sword. I saw both the "fortune" that the government and these pharmacies make off of the creation of this vaccine (and, perhaps the creation of the virus itself which then necessitates a vaccine), and perhaps, as well, a more sinister motive behind both the creation of the virus and the vaccine.

interesting......i'm thinkin the same thing...the whole thing about the "urgency" of this pandemic and this "vaccine" is "fishy"

Christsfreeservant · #13 15th July 2009, 10:22 AM

Ok, here is my understanding (completed) concerning this dream and its meaning in relation to this passage of scipture and as applied to what is going on with our government and these vaccines. Please pray about this, ok?

My Understanding: I get a strong sense that this government forcing of medication (a combination of two cold meds) is related to this new flu outbreak and the world health organization’s calling for everyone to be vaccinated. I know that I read one article about how the government was going to provide this vaccine for all school children in the fall, and I did get the sense that this would be required, i.e. forced.

New flu "unstoppable", WHO says, calls for vaccine - New flu unstoppable, WHO says, calls for vaccine | Reuters

New flu resembles feared 1918 virus: study - New flu resembles feared 1918 virus: study | Health | Reuters

The government, in this dream, was trying to force people to take medication (a combination of two cold remedy meds), which I equated then with the H1N1 flu vaccines that the WHO is requesting that all governments give to their people. Yet, what I found interesting about that was that, in the dream, I was handed a small container which held two kinds of medications mixed together. In reading about the virus, I learned that this H1N1 virus is actually a mixture of two swine viruses, just like the mixture of two medications I was being given by the government in the dream, but which I refused. Hmmmmm!

Is. 65, V. 11 speaks of a people who "spread a table for Fortune and fill bowls of mixed wine for Destiny" that God will destine them for the sword. I saw both the "fortune" that the government and these pharmacies make off of the creation of this vaccine (and, perhaps the creation of the virus itself which then necessitates a vaccine), and perhaps, as well, a more sinister motive behind both the creation of the virus and the vaccine.

Isaiah 65 speaks to two groups of people – those who are living in rebellion against Almighty God and who continually provoke the Lord by partaking in pagan rituals and those who follow the Lord in faith and obedience. We will begin with this group of people who are living in rebellion against God. I see definite parallels in vv. 3-5 and vv. 11-12 with what the government and the WHO, a product of the government, is doing and has done with relation to these swine flu vaccines.

V. 4 describes them as people who “sit among the graves.” In one of the (see links above) articles I read, it stated that multiple nations in 1999 went to nursing homes and took samples of the blood of people who were born before 1920 (example, my dad – see Pareatis, Pareatis!) as some kind of a test that revealed results that people born before 1920 still had immune protection against that virus. Interestingly enough, this same article states that the new H1N1 virus “bears a disturbing resemblance to the virus strain that caused the 1918 flu pandemic.” So, what do you suppose our government did with all those blood samples from 1999?

V. 4 also describes them as those who keep “secret vigil” and who “eat the flesh of pigs and whose pots hold broth of unclean meat.” Well, this virus is called a “swine flu” virus, which is actually a “mixture” of two swine flu viruses, and there is definite cause for concern about what these vaccines actually contain and what purpose the government has up their sleeves that they have been plotting during their “secret vigils” where they “eat the flesh of pigs,” etc.

I believe the Lord is warning us against taking this vaccine when it comes out and is made available to the public. I sense strongly that he is saying to run from it. And, I get the strong sense that at some point our “Habeas Corpus” may be suspended by the government due to a time of “national emergency” which I feel strongly will be created by our government so that they can take control, i.e. which then explains “Pareatis” which has to do with a king saying we must “obey” him by royal order and there will be an extension (an addition to) of his authority and rule, which is what happens when “Habeas Corpus” is suspended in a national emergency. I believe our government has been plotting this a long time.

Judgment is in store for them – God will pay them back in full for what they have done and will yet do. My NIV Bible Commentary states this about vv. 6-7: “The people’s prayer (of chapter 64) is answered, but not in the way they would hope for. In responding to our prayers, God always keeps within the spiritual and moral structure he has established. His judgment on a nation often awaits the full term of its sin.” Ouch!

Yet, there is good news in all of this! There will be revival and salvations that will come out of this. I believe that is what the part of the dream is about where the children that were with me received clothing that did not have other people’s names already written on them, and they received coats, as well, and then we were led into a room where we were able to get past people who were eating and drinking (see vv. 11-12) and we were able to get to a place of safety where people were living in freedom and where there was a road, I believe, to God’s eternal kingdom and to the time of the millennial reign of Christ, which I believe is described here in vv. 8-10 and 13-25. This is our hope!

gracechick · #14 15th July 2009, 10:54 AM

Reading about what the Lord seems to be saying plus less tainted research findings I often think of the verse Van Impe often quotes. The verse about death coming from the birds of the air and the beasts of the field. I am trying to remember what verse that is...

brinny · #15 15th July 2009, 11:42 AM

i'd be interested to know which verse this is also...

Christsfreeservant · #16 16th July 2009, 09:26 AM

This preacher is saying a lot of the same things the Lord has been showing me, which includes talking about this flu vaccine and the forcing of it on us and its connection with the flu of 1918. http://ltmstudios.org/audio/07122009.mp3.

Christsfreeservant · #17 16th July 2009, 05:36 PM

An older one - possibly related:

The Flu Bug

Tuesday, December 11, 2007, 10:16 p.m. – Well, I have been sick with the flu since Sunday afternoon, so I’m just getting back to writing. I did have several dreams while I was sick and I actually remembered them with quite clarity. When I was finally able to read the Word today, when my head was not throbbing, I did see that the dreams coincided with where I am reading in Isaiah 7-8, so I will share the dreams now and what I believe the Lord is saying through them.

Monday, December 10, 7:11 p.m. – I have had the song In Christ alone I put my trust and I will glory in the power of the cross… going through my head all afternoon and evening. The dream: My husband left to go somewhere, maybe work, and when I woke up, my three oldest granddaughters were in bed with me. I think their mom had to go to the hospital to have another baby. My husband left without telling me he was leaving and without telling me he was leaving the girls with me.

I got up and there were two different kinds of bugs all over the house and the house was slanted like it was falling down a hill and there was rain coming into the house. I tried to kill the bugs with some kind of bug spray. End.

I went back to sleep and at 9:30 p.m. I woke from another dream: I saw the news and the stuff I dreamed about in the first dream had come true. It was all over the place. We had another room in the house that had a guest occupant. I was showing him that I had dreamed about this coming, but he seemed more interested in a set of Bose speakers in the room that was filled with wooden furniture that had belonged to my kids. I asked him something about the furniture in the room and he acknowledged that none of it belonged to him. I know there was no bed. End.

Tuesday, December 11, 8:56 a.m. – I had a bunch more dreams in the night.

Dream #1: I was walking down a path of some sort with a young college student talking with him, but then I turned around and came back to where everyone was eating at long tables outside on the path. I had a reserved seat next to someone because we were supposed to share the peanut butter and jelly. Food was scarce so we had to eat whatever was available. But, when I sat down at the table to eat, there was a dish of spaghetti with lots of red sauce and underneath the spaghetti (in the dish) were some organizational papers that I had written a long time ago, like maybe when we had the college ministry in our home. I told the people to be careful not to eat the papers. End. The old hymn He Keeps Me Singing is going through my head.

Dream #2: Our family was selling our house, an old house with natural woodwork but that was in need of repair. In preparation for selling it, the family pitched in together to get it ready, especially I remember Jenny and David being there. Then, a realtor came who was a realtor for my husband’s company but he was kind of slow and unimpressive and I think he talked with a foreign accent.

After he left, we were in family discussion concerning the use of this realtor. I suggested that we use him, because, after all, it was really the Lord who would sell the house, so the instrument he used was not important as to whether the house sold or not. End.

I read Isaiah 7:13-8:10:

Then Isaiah said, "Hear now, you house of David! Is it not enough to try the patience of men? Will you try the patience of my God also? 14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. 15 He will eat curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right. 16 But before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste. 17 The LORD will bring on you and on your people and on the house of your father a time unlike any since Ephraim broke away from Judah—he will bring the king of Assyria."

18 In that day the LORD will whistle for flies from the distant streams of Egypt and for bees from the land of Assyria. 19 They will all come and settle in the steep ravines and in the crevices in the rocks, on all the thornbushes and at all the water holes. 20 In that day the Lord will use a razor hired from beyond the River —the king of Assyria—to shave your head and the hair of your legs, and to take off your beards also. 21 In that day, a man will keep alive a young cow and two goats. 22 And because of the abundance of the milk they give, he will have curds to eat. All who remain in the land will eat curds and honey. 23 In that day, in every place where there were a thousand vines worth a thousand silver shekels, there will be only briers and thorns. 24 Men will go there with bow and arrow, for the land will be covered with briers and thorns. 25 As for all the hills once cultivated by the hoe, you will no longer go there for fear of the briers and thorns; they will become places where cattle are turned loose and where sheep run.

Assyria, the LORD's Instrument
1 The LORD said to me, "Take a large scroll and write on it with an ordinary pen: Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz. 2 And I will call in Uriah the priest and Zechariah son of Jeberekiah as reliable witnesses for me."

3 Then I went to the prophetess, and she conceived and gave birth to a son. And the LORD said to me, "Name him Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz. 4 Before the boy knows how to say 'My father' or 'My mother,' the wealth of Damascus and the plunder of Samaria will be carried off by the king of Assyria."

5 The LORD spoke to me again:

6 "Because this people has rejected
the gently flowing waters of Shiloah
and rejoices over Rezin
and the son of Remaliah,

7 therefore the Lord is about to bring against them
the mighty floodwaters of the River —
the king of Assyria with all his pomp.
It will overflow all its channels,
run over all its banks

8 and sweep on into Judah, swirling over it,
passing through it and reaching up to the neck.
Its outspread wings will cover the breadth of your land,
O Immanuel !"

9 Raise the war cry, you nations, and be shattered!
Listen, all you distant lands.
Prepare for battle, and be shattered!
Prepare for battle, and be shattered!

10 Devise your strategy, but it will be thwarted;
propose your plan, but it will not stand,
for God is with us.

My understanding: I believe the first dream has to do with our leaders (church and/or governmental) deserting or abandoning us and as a result, judgment will come. The bugs could be flu bugs because I had the dream while I had the flu and because when I went back in my journal to the time when my daughter-in-law was in the hospital having her baby son and the girls were spending the night with us, I had just gotten over a flu bug and one of the girls got sick with the flu or strep throat while she was in my care. That was the end of August.

The passage of scripture talks about the birth of a baby boy as a sign and that judgment would come before he could say “Mommy and Daddy.” The scripture, combined with the dream would seem to indicate that the Lord is saying it is soon.

The house guest was a young man from our former Bible study group and he was more interested in the wooden speakers (man’s words) than he was in what was being fulfilled right before his eyes concerning the judgments of God.

I believe the Peanut Butter & Jelly is a modern-day equivalent to curds and honey. It means that when the judgment comes that food will be scarce and we will eat whatever is on hand that is prepackaged in bottles or cans. Even the spaghetti could be canned or bottled spaghetti. Rick says that spaghetti on top of paper could suggest that the paper is being shredded. The papers represented plans of men basically, and the scripture talks about men’s plans being thwarted and that only God’s plans will stand. I’m warning people not to eat the paper, so, in essence, I’m cautioning them not to feed on the plans of men because they are destined to perish.

The use of David in this dream is an obvious reference to the house of David in the passage of scripture and as Jenny usually symbolizes the church, I assume this is talking about either just the church or the church and Israel. God is the true realtor who is going to sell (bring judgment on) the church and Israel because they are so fleshly (wooden) and he is going to hire a foreigner to be his instrument – the king of Assyria.

Though sometimes He leads through waters deep,
Trials fall across the way,
Though sometimes the path seems rough and steep
See His foot-prints all the way.

(From: He Keeps Me Singing/Luther B. Bridgers)

Christsfreeservant · #18 16th July 2009, 10:06 PM

One more:

The Play

Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 7:33 a.m. – This song is in my head:

JESUS MESSIAH / CHRIS TOMLIN

He became sin, who knew no sin
That we might become His righteousness
He humbled himself and carried the cross…

Jesus Messiah, name above all names
Blessed redeemer, Emmanuel
The rescue for sinners, the ransom from Heaven
Jesus Messiah, Lord of all

His body the bread, his blood the wine
Broken and poured out all for love
The whole earth trembled, and the veil was torn

Love so amazing, love so amazing, yeah…
All I hope is in You, all I hope is in You
All the glory to You, God, the light of the world…

Shakespeare: All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players.

I also woke from A DREAM: We were putting on some kind of play at a school in the auditorium when the actors in the play began to get sick. My daughter was very sick and she was angry with me for some reason. There were other actors in the play, too, who were angry with me over things that I said which they had interpreted the wrong way. So, when they came on the stage, I closed my eyes to them; I would not look at them; I turned my head away from them. Yet, as I did, I was thinking that eventually I would have a change of heart and that I would open my eyes and smile.

At one point my daughter was so sick that I had to remove my costume (they were full-length down to the floor) in order to care for her so that I did not get her puke all over my clothes, but it was ok if it got on me. I apologized for my appearance, but I said it was necessary in order to care for her.

I had to fill in for someone in the play who had fallen ill near the end of the play, so I went to find the book with the play in it when a young man named Joshua, who was sitting in the audience on the sidelines, began to read the part. By the time we got to the Finale, there were not many of us left still in our costumes and one of them named David was lying down on the floor.

After the play was over and we were cleaning up, I remarked to one of the school leaders what a mess the school was in both from our play and from so many people getting sick, and I also said what a job it was going to be to clean it all up. I was also thinking we might have to quarantine the whole place and to keep everyone there. END

Speak, Lord, for your servant is listening. I read Ezekiel 7: The End Has Come

The word of the Lord came to me: 2 “Son of man, this is what the Sovereign Lord says to the land of Israel: The end! The end has come upon the four corners of the land. 3 The end is now upon you and I will unleash my anger against you. I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices. 4 I will not look on you with pity or spare you; I will surely repay you for your conduct and the detestable practices among you. Then you will know that I am the Lord.

5 “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Disaster! An unheard-of disaster is coming. 6 The end has come! The end has come! It has roused itself against you. It has come! 7 Doom has come upon you—you who dwell in the land. The time has come, the day is near; there is panic, not joy, upon the mountains. 8 I am about to pour out my wrath on you and spend my anger against you; I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices. 9 I will not look on you with pity or spare you; I will repay you in accordance with your conduct and the detestable practices among you. Then you will know that it is I the Lord who strikes the blow.

10 “The day is here! It has come! Doom has burst forth, the rod has budded, arrogance has blossomed! 11 Violence has grown into a rod to punish wickedness; none of the people will be left, none of that crowd—no wealth, nothing of value. 12 The time has come, the day has arrived. Let not the buyer rejoice nor the seller grieve, for wrath is upon the whole crowd. 13 The seller will not recover the land he has sold as long as both of them live, for the vision concerning the whole crowd will not be reversed. Because of their sins, not one of them will preserve his life. 14 Though they blow the trumpet and get everything ready, no one will go into battle, for my wrath is upon the whole crowd.

15 “Outside is the sword, inside are plague and famine; those in the country will die by the sword, and those in the city will be devoured by famine and plague. 16 All who survive and escape will be in the mountains, moaning like doves of the valleys, each because of his sins. 17 Every hand will go limp, and every knee will become as weak as water. 18 They will put on sackcloth and be clothed with terror. Their faces will be covered with shame and their heads will be shaved. 19 They will throw their silver into the streets, and their gold will be an unclean thing. Their silver and gold will not be able to save them in the day of the Lord’s wrath. They will not satisfy their hunger or fill their stomachs with it, for it has made them stumble into sin. 20 They were proud of their beautiful jewelry and used it to make their detestable idols and vile images. Therefore I will turn these into an unclean thing for them. 21 I will hand it all over as plunder to foreigners and as loot to the wicked of the earth, and they will defile it. 22 I will turn my face away from them, and they will desecrate my treasured place; robbers will enter it and desecrate it.

23 “Prepare chains, because the land is full of bloodshed and the city is full of violence. 24 I will bring the most wicked of the nations to take possession of their houses; I will put an end to the pride of the mighty, and their sanctuaries will be desecrated. 25 When terror comes, they will seek peace, but there will be none. 26 Calamity upon calamity will come, and rumor upon rumor. They will try to get a vision from the prophet; the teaching of the law by the priest will be lost, as will the counsel of the elders. 27 The king will mourn, the prince will be clothed with despair, and the hands of the people of the land will tremble. I will deal with them according to their conduct, and by their own standards I will judge them. Then they will know that I am the Lord.”

My Understanding: Last evening I attended a ladies meeting by invitation at the church where my husband and I are presently attending. At the meeting they discussed going to a play called “This Man Called Jesus.” And, they invited me to go with them in December. The play is going to take place at a Baptist Church in Lexington, SC. So, this sets the stage for the “play” in my dream, I believe.

Then, this morning after I recorded this dream, I attended a meeting of Senior Citizens at this same church at the church building. It began with choir practice and then they had guest artists. The church is celebrating 100 years of ministry, so the guests played to that theme. They were a group of seniors who mimicked various musicians and dancers over the past 100 years and they lip synced the songs.

Some of it was ok, but a lot of it was not. When they brought in someone to lip sync the song “I Can’t Say No” from Oklahoma, I cringed and sighed and thought how sad it was that she could not say no to sin and yet they laughed and applauded. Lyrics: http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/oklahoma/icantsayno.htm. They watched, too, as these mature ladies walked in with skirts slit up the sides, while they danced a tap dance and revealed way too much leg. I had to look away. And, then a lady walked in mimicking Marilyn Monroe singing “Diamonds are a Girl’s Best Friend.” That’s when I walked out. I went upstairs and cried. I don’t know what they did after that.

My daughter usually symbolizes the church people in my dreams and I believe the “sickness” in this dream is not just in relation to physical illness, but it is a clear picture of spiritual sickness in the church. I believe I am representing the Lord in this dream as he is here among us because he lives inside of us. The Lord has me speak out against these kinds of things and he has me call for repentance and he gives me messages of coming judgment, and that makes some people not like me.

Jesus humbled himself by taking off his kingly robe and putting on humanity for us. He bore our sin and carried our shame. He was poured out for us on the cross so that we might be saved from our sins. As servants of the Lord, we also are to lay down our lives in order to help those who are weighed down by sin to be saved.

In this dream, I closed my eyes and turned my head away from those who were angry with me just like Jesus will not look on us with pity but will judge us for our detestable practices (like what I witnessed this morning). Because of the adultery of his people in following other gods and using what is sacred to make those gods (like this morning), he will turn his face away from them and he will allow his treasured place to be desecrated. In Romans 1 it states that the Lord will turn us over to our sin when we refuse time and time again to repent.

The use of the terms “Finale” and “near the end” of the play parallel with the multiple use of the words “The end” in this passage of scripture. The end is near. Joshua is sitting on the sidelines and by the time he finally blows the trumpet, it will be too late – God’s wrath will already be upon the whole crowd. David represents a king who will be in mourning when this happens. The quarantine symbolizes the Babylonian captivity. And the school being a mess represents God’s treasured place being desecrated.

In the dream, I knew that eventually I would open my eyes and would smile on these people. There will be a day when the judgment will be over and for those in Christ Jesus, we will see Jesus face to face and we will be with him for eternity.

Christsfreeservant · #19 16th August 2009, 07:06 PM

I was reminded of this older dream today when I read the following news article:

Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America

Swine flu jab link to killer nerve disease: Leaked letter reveals concern of neurologists over 25 deaths in America | Mail Online

His Hand Is Lifted High

Friday, December 14, 2007, 6:56 a.m. – I woke up with this song in my head:

Our God Reigns
Leonard E. Smith, Jr./arranged by Tom Fettke

Based on Isaiah 52:7 and Luke 24:5-7, 39:
How beautiful on the mountains
are the feet of those who bring good news,
who proclaim peace,
who bring good tidings,
who proclaim salvation,
who say to Zion,
"Your God reigns!"

5In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, "Why do you look for the living among the dead? 6He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee: 7'The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.' 39"Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have."

How lovely on the mountains are the feet of him,
Who brings good news, good news;
Announcing peace, proclaiming news of happiness.
Our God Reigns! Our God Reigns!

Chorus
Our God reigns! Our God reigns!
Our God reigns! Our God reigns!
Our God reigns! Our God reigns!
Our God reigns! Our God reigns!

He had no stately form, He had no majesty
That we should be drawn to Him.
He was despised and we took no account of Him.
Yet now He reigns, with the Most High.

It was our sin and guilt that bruised and wounded Him.
It was our sin that brought Him down.
When we like sheep had gone astray our Shepherd came,
And on His shoulders He bore our shame.

Meek as a lamb, that's led out to the slaughterhouse,
Dumb as a sheep, before it's shearer;
His life ran down upon the ground like pouring rain,
That we might be born-again!

Out from the tomb He came with grace and majesty;
He is alive, He is alive!
God loves us so, see here His hands, His feet, His side;
And yes, we know, He is alive!

I was in prayer thanking the Lord that he does reign and for strength after being sick with the flu the previous five days, for the Lord to speak to me through his word and then I prayed “Bring the Miracle,” which was the miracle he told me about when I watched the movie The Miracle Worker and in other dreams, as well. As soon as I said those words “Bring the Miracle,” I remembered a dream that I had in the night:

I began to be taken up to heaven like I was being raptured, but then I hung there in the air in a vertically straight up and down elevated position while I waved at people, but no one noticed. Then, I came back down. Then, a huge flood came, so I decided that I would die in the flood, but just as the flood waters hit or just before they hit, a doctor or a nurse gave me an injection of something that killed me, like they thought I wanted to commit suicide, but I didn’t. I was just ready to go home to heaven. When they gave me the injection, I was in an elevated horizontally straight (level) position but still hanging in the air just like before with nothing underneath me.

Then, whether awake or asleep I do not know, I realized that the shot was like a knife or a sword and that I had been killed for my faith in Christ. End. Then, I prayed for understanding of the meaning of the dream and for God to search my heart and to know my anxious thoughts… and then I read Isaiah 26:3-11:

You will keep in perfect peace
him whose mind is steadfast,
because he trusts in you.

4 Trust in the LORD forever,
for the LORD, the LORD, is the Rock eternal.

5 He humbles those who dwell on high,
he lays the lofty city low;
he levels it to the ground
and casts it down to the dust.

6 Feet trample it down—
the feet of the oppressed,
the footsteps of the poor.

7 The path of the righteous is level;
O upright One, you make the way of the righteous smooth.

8 Yes, LORD, walking in the way of your laws,
we wait for you;
your name and renown
are the desire of our hearts.

9 My soul yearns for you in the night;
in the morning my spirit longs for you.
When your judgments come upon the earth,
the people of the world learn righteousness.

10 Though grace is shown to the wicked,
they do not learn righteousness;
even in a land of uprightness they go on doing evil
and regard not the majesty of the LORD.

11 O LORD, your hand is lifted high,
but they do not see it.
Let them see your zeal for your people and be put to shame;
let the fire reserved for your enemies consume them.

NIV Commentary: “The God of the righteous is himself righteous, and he is described here as upright – a term used of God’s word, his judgments, and his ways. Physical uprightness is often the linguistic basis for the moral concept of righteousness. The words also suggest appropriateness of destiny. Those who are straight or on the level have their path smoothed by the God who is upright…

“Sin blinds the mind of sinners so that they see nothing from a divine perspective, least of all their own sin. It is a function of judgment to teach humans the seriousness of sin and to show them that God cares deeply about righteousness. In this respect, the prophet assures us, judgment is more effective than grace… Even now God’s hand is uplifted, ready to strike them in judgment; but they are totally unaware of it. The prophet totally identifies himself with the judgment of God on the wicked. We must compassionately seek to bring the gospel to others, but on the day of judgment we must accept his every verdict; for as the Judge of all the earth, he does only what is right.”

This is a tough one. Speak, Lord, for your servant is listening. I read a devotional the following day about Daniel and how he prevailed over the earth, darkness and death because of the life and light of God in his life. He overcame because he saw overcoming as an all-the-time thing, not a once-in-awhile thing. I realized that this went along with this dream and that the elevation (whether vertical or horizontal) had to do with overcoming, just like when Jesus rose from the dead.

I also saw that the path of the righteous is level (horizontal elevation) and that physical uprightness – straight - (vertical elevation) is often the linguistic basis for the moral concept of righteousness. So, the Lord was giving me here a picture of righteousness – both his righteousness and the righteousness he imparts to those who put their trust in Him.

I believe there was also a parallel, not only between Jesus’ ministry on the earth and those who impart the Good News, but also of God’s hand being uplifted, ready to strike in judgment, and the picture of me waving my hands and no one noticing, which I believe symbolizes God’s messengers giving the news of coming judgment. And, there was also a parallel between Jesus’ death and resurrection and the martyrdom of those saints who die for their faith in Christ yet are taken to heaven.

One other thing I saw was a picture of my soul yearning for God in the night (horizontally elevated like being asleep yet being in the Spirit like when I dream) and my soul longing for Him in the morning (vertically being elevated and waving my hand as a messenger of God in proclaiming the judgments of God to come). Isaiah longed for God day and night. I do, too.

It was our sin that brought Jesus down to the earth to die on the cross and to be raised the third day to life and it is our sin that will bring him in judgment on the earth in order to teach us the seriousness of sin and to show us that God cares deeply about righteousness. God’s hand is uplifted, ready to strike…

LogosRhema · #20 20th August 2009, 04:19 PM

I continually have dreams where I'm running for my life much like your dream. And the dreams are extremely realistic and I can't parallel them to my life at all. Interesting to say the least.