Has TD Jakes turned apostate in his beliefs and teachings?

If this topic has already been brought up and discussed I apologize. It's just that I mentioned this in another thread as his name came up and I didn't want to derail it any further and offered to post support for the information I shared about TD Jakes having severely strayed far from the Word of Truth and that he is now preaching a gay condoning doctrine. He is preaching that Naomi and Ruth had a lesbian relationship as well as Jonathan and David etc...

He is also now preaching another gospel of salvation.
The cross of Christ is offensive to those who are perishing. TD Jakes was apparently ashamed of the cross and afraid of offending anyone with the truth of Christ's shed blood and the cross being the only bridge that God provided to close the gap between Him and man, that they might be saved.


Here is the youtube recording and here below that is the link that provides the transcripts from the program.



DOCTRINE MATTERS: T.D. Jakes and Joel Osteen - On Heaven

Here are links exposing his new homosex promoting doctrine




T D Jakes’ Covenant Relationships — Changing His Beliefs on Homosexuality Apostate Evangelists & Teachers

TD Jakes becomes a conduit for false homosexual theology Gay Christian Movement Watch

There are more out there if you want me to provide them or
you can google them.


Disclaimer: I do not endorse every doctrine posted on these sites.


Contending for the faith,
Jack

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The Lord chastens whom he loves, and scourges every son whom he receives. If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chastens not? But if you be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then you are bastards, and not sons.

(ie., if we refuse God's correction and change God's words to suit ourselves, then we deceive ourselves. Scripture says "you are therefore a bastard and not a son. God is not your Father."<---paraph-mine)

I think You have to deny the divinity of Christ to be an apostate.

God Bless!

there are a lot of false teachers around. Some of them, are extremley popular. Pray for them, as the consequences for them will be severe. Pray they come to the fullness of truth and repent.

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Ok, I listened to the first one and I do not see anything off the wall he said. He said he is working with other 'faiths'. I don't think anything is wrong with that. He said that Christianity is right, but Jesus has 'other' sheep of the fold that have not come in yet..

I don't see anything wrong with what he said at all. He said is working together with others with the 'common' things we all have in common, and I believe that it has something to do with 'helps' or of that sort, he was not speaking of religious differences at all.

I get where he is coming from and is going with the heaven part as well.

I will listen to the second one.

I have heard that second sermon in FULL before, as a matter of fact I use to have the CD disc.

He is not promoting homosexuality.

He is talking about how people can actually confuse a close relationship of the same sex with being homosexual. And how they can take what Ruth said to Naomi as something sexual or lesbian in nature.

He also speaks of this in another sermon he has about David and Jonathan...

they are not sheep if they are no in His fold yet. That is one step of the universalist false teaching.

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Originally Posted by mont974x4

they are not sheep if they are no in His fold yet. That is one step of the universalist false teaching.

Another issue I don't plan to get into at all on this thread.

For one thing, Most are not able to understand how "Christian" Universalists view hell, lake of fire, and the judgment of God and how all of it all intertwined.

Perhaps he is, but that still is not what I got from what he was saying, it has nothing to do with a Universalistic approach at all from my view.

Then again, everything is perspective.

What you have posted here doesn't present any evidence at all that T.D. Jakes believes that there is another road to salvation other than Christ, or that he ever taught that Ruth and Naomi were lesbians.

There are a lot of things that are wrong with many televangelists today, but if you're going to accuse a man, do it right. Do it with real evidence, not jeering out-of-context snippets that don't say anything at all about what he said, and least of all websites written by other people based on those out-of-context snippets.

And for the record, I agree with the second short, decapitated cut. That is the peverse way that people in this society often view close relationships between two people of the same sex in the Bible. Whether the point that he was actually making leaned towards that of the homosexual agenda, I wouldn't know, because the cut suspiciously cuts him off before he is able to make it...and I frankly don't follow T.D. Jakes closely enough to know from which recording this was taken in order to find out.

I don't know how the ignore feature works , but just in case you can read this, thanks for clearing up what I suspected. People do this all the time, on every side. They want to accuse a guy of something, so they run and snatch up something entirely out of context to try to meld his speech into something they can use against him. People might as well do audio doctoring--it's nearly the same thing.

There are sheep and there are goats. There is no "other sheep". If he is teaching that, then he is teaching an error.

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