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Evolution is a fact, and the theory of evolution explains that fact. For some reason many creationists like to separate evolution into two categories when there really isn't a difference. Micro and macro evolution. Not a lot of people reject what creationists are calling micro evolution, but many creationists still reject what they call macro evolution. My question to creationists is what prevents accumulated micro changes to turn into what you would consider to be macro evolution?
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The saddest thing of all is that he actually believes that to be true, where he got the idea from God only knows, he didn't think it up on his own, someone must have planted that idea in his head and I don't think it was a Muslim.
Well of course in a sense, AV is right. There are things that are not physically possible. Boundaries all over the place, the physical properties of matter.
Its easy to figure out what and where those boundaries are. There is no magic in the tensile strength of steel, say.
Evolution has some boundaries too, they just are not where AV imagines that they are. Deliberate ignorance combined with a rigid ideology may seem like a formula for understanding things, but its intellectually dishonest and, really the lazy way out.
Ah yes! They will say; but it is still a dog. No matter how long you keep breeding it , it will never be another species, it will always be a dog. I guess if in ten million years you developed a kind that climbed trees, ate fruit and had a grasping tail, you could still call it a dog if you wanted to. Could even call it cow if you like.
I guess in a sense they are right. No matter how long you keep breeding reptiles, even tho they get feathers and wings and so forth, they are still reptiles. Sorta.
They've got you there, AV: there doesn't appear to be any boundary evolution cannot cross. That humans and fungi are both descended from the same organism is as big a boundary as you could ever hope to cross.
That said, the terms 'microevolution' (evolution within a species) and 'macroevolution' (evolution between species; speciation) were first coined by evolutionists. They were simply co-opted by creationists.
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