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The End Times, the pieces to centralized control start to come together.

I was reading the news when the hair in the back of my neck started to tingle. I looked twice to see if I was reading it right. There was someone suggesting the world needed to unite the political and economic aspects of every country, and under the aspicious of the United Nations, for the advancement of 'people centered' goals. I looked again at the headlines to make sure I was reading it correctly.....

"...Pope Proposes New Financial Order...
"...Pope Benedict XVI called for a new financial order with “real teeth” as Group of Eight leaders prepare to discuss ways out of the worst recession since World War II. “Profit is useful if it serves as a ...From profits to ethics: pope calls for a new political and financial world order...
"...This must be tackled, he said, by the creation of a global political authority and financial order based not just on the search for ever greater profits, but on ethics and a sense of the common good.The pontiff made the appeal in a 144-page encyclical – a reflection on doctrine that is the highest form of papal writing – three days before he was due to discuss the global downturn with Barack Obama.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jul/07/pope-new-political-financial-order

"...Pope Benedict today pinned responsibility for the worldwide recession squarely on greed and an amoral fascination with technological progress for its own sake. This must be tackled, he said, by the creation of a global political authority and financial
Georgetown/On Faith: Pope Benedict on Economic Justice - Thomas J. Reese

"...Pope: encyclical, even globalization in need of a soul..Globalisation, which marks society today, is in need of a reaffirmation of ethical values, as well as “a personal and communal cultural orientation, open to transcendence" that is capable of "correcting its malfunctions." Moreover, in our age, “the State finds itself having to address the limitations to its sovereignty imposed by the new context of international trade and finance”. “This new context has altered the political power of States” (n. 24). But “as we take to heart the lessons of the current economic crisis, it seems more realistic to re-evaluate their role and their powers, which need to be prudently reviewed and remodelled”
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15716&size=A



"...Pope Benedict's long awaited encyclical calls for a radical rethinking of economics so that it is guided not simply by profits but by "an ethics which is people-centered."
...days before he is to meet with Pope Benedict XVI on his first trip to Italy, President Obama told FOX News that the Catholic Church's long tradition of social justice has had a "profound influence" on him. Obama told FOX News that he looks forward to reading the encyclical, a "circular letter" titled "Charity in Truth," published by the Vatican.

The encyclical -- set to be published on the eve of the G8 summit -- has been seen as a message from the pope to leaders of advanced nations who will convene in L'Aquila, Italy,on Wednesday.

Obama: Social Justice in Catholic Church Has Had 'Profound Influence' on Me - Political News - FOXNews.com

The world united under economic, political and 'moral' aspects, a global political authority and financial order, a 'new world order', and I never thought it would happen in my lifetime....

The ancient Chinese proverb 'May you live in interesting times', often referred to euphemistically as the Chinese curse, comes to mind. It will indeed be interesting times to see how it all falls into place.
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Old 7th July 2009, 10:12 PM
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I was reading the news when the hair in the back of my neck started to tingle. I looked twice to see if I was reading it right. There was someone suggesting the world needed to unite the political and economic aspects of every country, and under the aspicious of the United Nations, for the advancement of 'people centered' goals.
Red, you may be a bit behind the times.

For starters, check out OCA (Optimal Currency Area) theory from the 1960s. That's one of dozens of places this has been discussed over the last 50 years.

This is like posting a picture of a cumulonimbus cloud as evidence for the second coming.
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I just didnt see how the capitalist West could ever unite with Russia and China. But now Russia has tied itself to the Capitilist West with its oil and gas capicity, which with the prices booming, has economically lifted it back into its status as a world power. China has quickly taken over as producer of cheap consumer goods to satisfy the insaitible desires of American buyers and others. Interesting that Walmart who pushed buying American, openned the door with Hillary Clinton on the Walmart board and Bill Clinton openned the floodgates with his giving China favoured nation status.

Now China holds our debt and we have to send high government officials to make sure they continue to, while Russia supplies Europe with its gas and oil, so we are all locked into a economic Gordian Knot which no one can untie.
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Originally Posted by Avonia View Post
Red, you may be a bit behind the times.

For starters, check out OCA (Optimal Currency Area) theory from the 1960s. That's one of dozens of places this has been discussed over the last 50 years.

This is like posting a picture of a cumulonimbus cloud as evidence for the second coming.
Perhaps.

I surely wasn't aware of this development. I'm glad he posted it.
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Those two videos RND posted summed it up pretty well. The timing of his announcement (before the G8 summit and meeting with Obama, not MJ's death) really say a lot about what's on his mind.
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Those two videos RND posted summed it up pretty well. The timing of his announcement (before the G8 summit and meeting with Obama, not MJ's death) really say a lot about what's on his mind.
He is positioning himself in the New World Order as the moral aspect to balance the economic and political powers. He will guide the world in religious matters, as who can compare, what religious leader comes close, the Mullahs, the Rabbis, the Dalai Lama?
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For starters, check out OCA (Optimal Currency Area) theory from the 1960s. That's one of dozens of places this has been discussed over the last 50 years.
Correct. Benedict’s mention of a “world political authority” in his recent encyclical is simply recycled from Pope John XXIII’s encyclical from 1963 in which he stated that the “world-wide” problems in his day could not be solved “except by a public authority with power, organization and means co-extensive with these problems, and with a world-wide sphere of activity”, and that “moral order itself demands the establishment of some such general form of public authority”. John also said this authority was to be equipped with “world-wide power and adequate means for achieving the universal common good”. Benedict admitted in the recyclical that his view on the matter was previously indictated "by my predecessor John XXIII".

So Pope John XXIII called for all this in his 1963 encyclical and no such public authority was created, and yet the gentleman in RND's video wants you to believe that Benedict's call is the most "momentous, prophetic event that has transpired (probably) in our time"? It's certainly something to keep an eye on, but I don't think Benedict's encyclical is as cataclysmic as some make it out to be.

And encyclicals are not the most authoritative documents that a pope can issue, despite what the video guy said.

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