Vision of a very short King

StevenTylerHerrin · #1 5th July 2009, 10:05 PM

I had a vision that was as powerful and bright as day in the middle of the night last night. In the vision I saw a very short King almost as small as a miget dressed in a red Kings outfit. He was walking toward his bed which had a woman in it, and as I saw this a beast covered in hair passed by me.

When I woke up the next morning I looked up what I could on this, and found out that the Anti Christ is represented as a little horn in the bible, and my mind got to thinking of the beast, and woman that rode on a beast in revelations.

heron · #2 5th July 2009, 11:51 PM

Do you feel like there might be more to it?

The king had unexpectedly small stature, as though onlookers would not expect him to command the respect he does.

Notice how many small countries over history have become world powers. The expansionism of England. The economic and technological strength of Japan. The volume of voice of Venezuela. The threatening of North Korea. The domination from Germany. Alexander the Great's way of recruiting as he expanded.

Red is usually a warning color, but could also relate to a national color; think about how you felt about the red.

He was walking while the woman was reclining -- these positions show action and pursuit, composure or victim stance or luring one who could raise their status.

Look at the Honduras thread, and see if anything hits you. So many countries are under transition right now.

While you see the end times aspects of it, I think that current activities are tying in, showing the legend aspect of Revelations turning into more reality than we expected.

StevenTylerHerrin · #3 7th July 2009, 01:13 PM

The Kings outfit was of royalty, and he was to be taken serious.. The vision I had came with much power, I could not move, talk, or do anything. It was very frightening when it came. All I could say was inwardly "I trust you God." As soon as I spoke those words the vision came to me. I know to many, the idea of a short king along with a beast may sound silly, but this was by no means silly. It was a very serious thing that troubled me for the entire day. As far as the now times pointing us toward the end of times.. I see this also, our government along with many other gov. across the world are "ruthlessly" fighting for a one world government. Controlled by the government, and aimed at a utopia. I see very clearly the deception of the coming governments. Giving us a little bit of truth with a large dose of lies. I could see our government one day giving up their power to one person who has the power to unite the nations. In fact not to step on any toes, but Obama is heading that way with his apologizing to nations that hate us, and seeming to want to bring world peace.. We know good and well that Jesus is the only one who can bring world peace. Once the government of America stops taking orders from her people we will be ready for the end as well. I think a new reality will be coming of just how close we are to the end than most would believe at this time.

freeport · #4 7th July 2009, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by StevenTylerHerrin

The Kings outfit was of royalty, and he was to be taken serious.. The vision I had came with much power, I could not move, talk, or do anything. It was very frightening when it came. All I could say was inwardly "I trust you God." As soon as I spoke those words the vision came to me. I know to many, the idea of a short king along with a beast may sound silly, but this was by no means silly. It was a very serious thing that troubled me for the entire day. As far as the now times pointing us toward the end of times.. I see this also, our government along with many other gov. across the world are "ruthlessly" fighting for a one world government. Controlled by the government, and aimed at a utopia. I see very clearly the deception of the coming governments. Giving us a little bit of truth with a large dose of lies. I could see our government one day giving up their power to one person who has the power to unite the nations. In fact not to step on any toes, but Obama is heading that way with his apologizing to nations that hate us, and seeming to want to bring world peace.. We know good and well that Jesus is the only one who can bring world peace. Once the government of America stops taking orders from her people we will be ready for the end as well. I think a new reality will be coming of just how close we are to the end than most would believe at this time.

On this concept of NWO and so forth:

I have a very alien view on these matters, but am familiar with this popular view.

We are very close to the "end", but what I have found is that people need to throw expectations out the window.

"Knowledge" is over-rated. Knowledge of God is all one really needs. Interpretations of prophecy are very often simply locked for people. They come to conclusions to the best they can. And often times they accept popular viewpoints and stop looking even though they know in their hearts they are not sure about it.

What is critical is to keep one's own eyes on God. That is sound advice. Interpreting Revelation without revelation from God - even with good Christians - can be very dangerous and lead people to making dangerous assumptions.

There is a reason God has hidden so much in Scripture which plainly is full of deep symbolism. And people can say, "But, wouldn't the whole church know right away". Would they? Because do we not have all sorts among us? And how large is the church?

Some main things I have noted for people to look out for: fight against what you know is bad, like tyranny. Do not judge wickedly against your neighbor, whoever they are. This is a spiritual combat first and foremost, so be careful in your own heart - just as Jesus instructed - first and foremost. There are material manifestations of that spiritual combat, but the real battleground is your heart. Each person has their own battleground.

Be very careful on any sort of judgment. Jesus stressed that very strongly. We are to make right judgments, but we must have proper evidence when we do so.

Under the Law the world worked with everyone under the curse because everyone fell short of it. With the Devil as the prince of the wicked world, he would bless his children. So, the wicked thrived while the meek were crushed underfoot. This was all for God's good purposes: that evil is but temporary fleeting and unworthy of mention in consideration of the tremendous, eternal reward before us.

One error I see people get a lot into is being focused on "the beast". I have yet to see anyone explain what that means with a satisfactory answer, but countless many are all too willing to throw that label around at just about anyone they dislike or disagree with.

This can cause them to judge falsely good Christians. And that should be considered a very dangerous place to be. For Jesus spoke much of this. And we all know how quick men are to slander us.

Why should people be trying to figure out some deep spiritual thing hidden to them when they have so much to do everyday and should be trying to figure out not what "the beast" is, but what God wants from us? And what is more of God, instead of wickedness?

It is a dreadful temptation: people do not want to be fooled, they know Jesus is Lord, do they trust Him? If they trust Him, they know that 'the elect will be kept'. And that can be a hard thing to believe in this complex and quickly changing day and age.

For me, the main thing I want to see are people seeing and moving more towards Jesus, to be more like Him. Focusing on judgments of this world are critical, but I, personally, find this must be done with every sound evidence: for instance, we know Islamism and Communism and their children are wrong doctrines for they deny Jesus.

In those nations there are many who could be saved if but their governments stopped contending with Jesus. And they do this by banning and persecuting how people believe.

If the old gentile kingdom was backwards, being under the wicked powers... and John and James did not understand what it meant to be "at the left and right hand side of you"... then what will the coming Millennium be like? Or even the age afterwards? We are given tastes of this: and those tastes surely are growing among Christians scattered through out the world.

Mark these words if they have wisdom that you can see and accept.

freeport · #5 7th July 2009, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by StevenTylerHerrin

I had a vision that was as powerful and bright as day in the middle of the night last night. In the vision I saw a very short King almost as small as a miget dressed in a red Kings outfit. He was walking toward his bed which had a woman in it, and as I saw this a beast covered in hair passed by me.

When I woke up the next morning I looked up what I could on this, and found out that the Anti Christ is represented as a little horn in the bible, and my mind got to thinking of the beast, and woman that rode on a beast in revelations.

I am also supposed to write this:

We must believe and in our belief fight against the enemies of Christ, no longer seeing a necessity in the world for anything from disease or injury to finally, death.

These are things which we know are enemies of God, for we do know Jesus came to heal the sick and raise the dead. And the last enemy is death.

We know the curses of the Law and what that brings.

We have, as Christians, a responsibility to try and help the faith of others. I know God foreordained trouble for us due to our guilt, and that guilt was laid upon us so we might become true Children of God.

We have choices: to continue to see a necessity of control of the world through the curses of the Law which effectively sanction them, or to strive towards seeing the word Jesus spoke to us being the new way.

That is very spiritual in meaning.

We may not feel we have the ability to lay our hands on people and heal them, but do we not have the ability to agree that God can remove all of the pain in the world? And is it not pain which is what is not of God, for God is love?

We can say, "But clearly there are those who do not believe and need this for repentance". Okay, I agree. But, when will it stop, and can we start to strive for that Day?

Nineveh was about to be destroyed, so God sent Jonah to preach to that godless city a message of their destruction. What happened? They repented and the city survived. Jonah was very angry about this.

What do we want to have happen in the world today, therefore, and how should we strive for it?

Should we not be like Jonah who saw God as graceful and merciful... yet not like Jonah who was angry that He would save a city of sinners?

So, maybe what is happening now and what will happen is not something which one may not be aware of, it may not be popular opinion at all. Today, the world is like modern Israel in the Free World where people know prophecy and have commonly accepted beliefs on "how it must happen". But, was it not that very way for the Jews?

And did God not also love those very same Jews?

We have nothing to boast on for salvation, for God made the wicked and the righteous alike: if any man be righteous it is solely because of God, not because of what they have done. Not in the slightest.

Therefore, we have a command to seek mercy and grace: for our enemies.

Even for our enemies.

Are people praying for their enemies, the enemies of Christ, that they, too, might know the Love that is our Heavenly Father?

I hope so.

heron · #6 7th July 2009, 05:42 PM

The red king's outfit struck me. It seems slightly antiquated, but mostly traditional.

A thick velvet robe hides who the person is underneath, and wraps a human with a superhuman respectability. Under their robe, they could sneak in swords or Doritos, and no one would see -- not even cohorts.

I think of old kingdoms like Spain, where the colors are rich and intense, and formality is honored. Compare your king's attire to how Obama dresses. He presents himself as a man of the people, a white collar professional. The king appeared as a monarch, who puts himself above the people.

gracechick · #7 7th July 2009, 11:21 PM

Where were you reading in scripture or what teaching had you heard that may help you understand this more? Were you praying over particuliar countries? Sounds like an intense vision to me.

Suddenly wondering if his short stature refers to him being in power for only a short time. His dress may represent the old Roman Empire? and the woman may be the wicked woman of Revelations. The vision could also represent that he is a proud man, but she has seduced and "conquered" him as they have entered this evil union. Lastly the beast walking past would throw a shadow over the couple which may represent the real unseen power, but the people mostly see themselves as the powerful ones. JMHT

freeport · #8 8th July 2009, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by StevenTylerHerrin

The Kings outfit was of royalty, and he was to be taken serious.. The vision I had came with much power, I could not move, talk, or do anything. It was very frightening when it came. All I could say was inwardly "I trust you God." As soon as I spoke those words the vision came to me. I know to many, the idea of a short king along with a beast may sound silly, but this was by no means silly. It was a very serious thing that troubled me for the entire day. As far as the now times pointing us toward the end of times.. I see this also, our government along with many other gov. across the world are "ruthlessly" fighting for a one world government. Controlled by the government, and aimed at a utopia. I see very clearly the deception of the coming governments. Giving us a little bit of truth with a large dose of lies. I could see our government one day giving up their power to one person who has the power to unite the nations. In fact not to step on any toes, but Obama is heading that way with his apologizing to nations that hate us, and seeming to want to bring world peace.. We know good and well that Jesus is the only one who can bring world peace. Once the government of America stops taking orders from her people we will be ready for the end as well. I think a new reality will be coming of just how close we are to the end than most would believe at this time.

I really like your signature, btw, that is humble and a right attitude to take... so often I find myself having to go back to myself and work on my own perspective everyday, then I find I get better able to handle bigger things.

On short stature:

The book of Zechariah talks about the One who will judge "My House". And in that it specifically states that 'blessed are those who do not despise the day of little things'.

You can find a lot about that building of the second temple in that book, and in surrounding books, and other books of the Bible. Pslams and Isaiah speaks much of these matters.

What they mean remains a mystery, as does most of the plans of God for the end of the world. We know this because we know when something is sure and true, and we also know when something is speculation.

Mystery is good, the intention of mystery is so people will seek. Unfortunately, too many act like Pharisees and do not seek God on these matters, instead they consult scribes who do not know what they are talking about.

They say "I know, I know" and refuse to admit ignorance on matters.

How can we ever find if we do not seek?

But such seeking can hurt.

On the king being wicked or something:

If this was all about evil, then why would God's hand have been on you so strongly? Did you feel the king was evil? I find the most awesome plagues during the third woe to come from Heaven, not from the wicked powers, personally.

freeport · #9 8th July 2009, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by gracechick

Where were you reading in scripture or what teaching had you heard that may help you understand this more? Were you praying over particuliar countries? Sounds like an intense vision to me.

Suddenly wondering if his short stature refers to him being in power for only a short time. His dress may represent the old Roman Empire? and the woman may be the wicked woman of Revelations. The vision could also represent that he is a proud man, but she has seduced and "conquered" him as they have entered this evil union. Lastly the beast walking past would throw a shadow over the couple which may represent the real unseen power, but the people mostly see themselves as the powerful ones. JMHT

OP:

I would really like to know -- was the king good or evil?

God's hand was on you strong, so I would think this was conveyed.

Edit: there have been a number of dreams about a child president or king and such... wonder if those tie into this.

heron · #10 8th July 2009, 08:40 AM

In fact not to step on any toes, but Obama is heading that way with his apologizing to nations that hate us, and seeming to want to bring world peace.. We know good and well that Jesus is the only one who can bring world peace. Once the government of America stops taking orders from her people we will be ready for the end as well. I think a new reality will be coming of just how close we are to the end than most would believe at this time.

It sounds like seeing the king was jarring in a similar way -- a shifting of expectations. A solid realization that this was the only ruler you saw, and you were stuck with it, or someone else was.

He reminds me a little of Venezuela, but I see that your one world government topic applies, as the result of consolidating all nations.