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5th July 2009, 07:59 AM
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Christian Family Concept
I am not an artist, but I want to paint a mental picture and ask someone to turn it into a physical picture.
What I vision is a young man in front of his wife and two children, with his parents behind his wife. This represents self-sufficiency and continuation. It requires no outside support to survive but allows for families to band together for a common good. It is consistent with the Bible.
The young man should be clothed as stated in Ephesians 6:10-20, "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel. For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak."
The father of the young man should be equally clothed, but with the obvious scars of battle.
The wife and children of the young man should be clothed in white to represent the purity of a Godly woman, wife and mother. One child should be a boy and the other a girl.
The appearance of the wife should reflect Ephesians 5:22: "Wives, submit yourselves unto your husbands, as unto the Lord, For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body."
The mother of the young man should be clothed as his wife, but with the obvious scars of time.
The Christian Family should operate as stated in Colossians 3:18-21, "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them. Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord. Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged."
This may seem too idealistic, but I believe this is the model that the Bible presents. The faces can be black, white, yellow, brown, etc. but the protection of the man, the nurturing of the woman and the continuity of the generations must be maintained.
It is important to remember what God intends for humans so that the disease, death and destruction of Atheistic Lifestyle can be avoided. All humans suffer the affliction of living, but those that live the Atheistic Lifestyle suffer the additional afflictions associated with the wilful disobedience of commandments/doctrines of the Bible. The Atheistic Lifestyle is an unnecessary burden to all of society.
This is a political subject because the Republican party best represents and promotes the Christian Family Concept. The Socialism, Feminism and Atheism of the democratic party represents the destruction of the Christian Family Concept.
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5th July 2009, 01:14 PM
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6th July 2009, 12:47 AM
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Newt Gingrich, David Vitter, Mark Foley, Jim Gibbons, John Ensign, Larry Craig, Mark Sanford---exactly how has the Republican Party promoted the Christian Family Concept?
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6th July 2009, 02:51 AM
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I am not an artist, but I want to paint a mental picture and ask someone to turn it into a physical picture.
What I vision is a young man in front of his wife and two children, with his parents behind his wife. This represents self-sufficiency and continuation. It requires no outside support to survive but allows for families to band together for a common good. It is consistent with the Bible.
Are the parents young enough to still be in the workforce and not need social security?
Is the young man sufficiently upper/middle class to afford a home for his family? I assume that in your "Christian Family Concept," the wife stays at home -- even Christians find it difficult to get by on one income these days. The young man should be clothed as stated in Ephesians 6:10-20, "Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel. For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak."
Alas, such clothing, while poetic, will be of little warmth this winter. The father of the young man should be equally clothed, but with the obvious scars of battle.
Ah -- Grandpa's a war veteran? Since you're not a fan of government subsidies, can we assume that he gets no vet benefits? The wife and children of the young man should be clothed in white to represent the purity of a Godly woman, wife and mother. One child should be a boy and the other a girl.
You wish. The appearance of the wife should reflect Ephesians 5:22: "Wives, submit yourselves unto your husbands, as unto the Lord, For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body."
And should the wife choose not to be submissive? The mother of the young man should be clothed as his wife, but with the obvious scars of time.
They have botox for that now, you know. The Christian Family should operate as stated in Colossians 3:18-21, "Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them. Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord. Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged."
That sound you hear is Norman Rockwell, calling his lawyer from beyond the grave. This may seem too idealistic, but I believe this is the model that the Bible presents. The faces can be black, white, yellow, brown, etc. but the protection of the man, the nurturing of the woman and the continuity of the generations must be maintained.
If it's too idealistic, then the Bible's model is not practical. We need real world solutions that work in the here and now, not some romanticized vision from the past. It is important to remember what God intends for humans so that the disease, death and destruction of Atheistic Lifestyle can be avoided. All humans suffer the affliction of living, but those that live the Atheistic Lifestyle suffer the additional afflictions associated with the wilful disobedience of commandments/doctrines of the Bible. The Atheistic Lifestyle is an unnecessary burden to all of society.
And yet, society accepts that burden of its own free will. This is a political subject because the Republican party best represents and promotes the Christian Family Concept. The Socialism, Feminism and Atheism of the democratic party represents the destruction of the Christian Family Concept.
I'm curious as to what the Republican party has actually done to make this vision a reality. People wonder about all the pain and suffer in the world, yet will not follow the plan of the creator of the world.
I don't wonder -- I know where the pain and suffering comes from: People forced to be something they're not. |
6th July 2009, 02:57 AM
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clever but you still godwin'd this thread the first reply  |
6th July 2009, 03:34 AM
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Is it still a Godwin even if the reference isn't made directly about the man itself?
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6th July 2009, 04:58 AM
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It is important to remember what God intends for humans so that the disease, death and destruction of Atheistic Lifestyle can be avoided.
All humans suffer the affliction of living, but those that live the Atheistic Lifestyle suffer the additional afflictions associated with the wilful disobedience of commandments/doctrines of the Bible. The Atheistic Lifestyle is an unnecessary burden to all of society.
This is a political subject because the Republican party best represents and promotes the Christian Family Concept. The Socialism, Feminism and Atheism of the democratic party represents the destruction of the Christian Family Concept.
People wonder about all the pain and suffer in the world, yet will not follow the plan of the creator of the world.
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6th July 2009, 07:53 AM
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Reps: 1,327,714,146,010,089 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by TheNewWorldMan Now let's be fair: Clirus's statements really did not veer that far from Biblical truths until the gratuitous rant against what she deems to be the Left.
My rant against the Left (Atheists and democrats) is necessary because Christians need to implement the truth of the Bible as much as possible.
There is joy when people follow the commandments/doctrines of the Bible and there is suffering when people do follow the commandments/doctrines of the Bible.
Proverbs 29:2 says, "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn."
Neither Republicans nor Christians are perfect, but when compared to democrats and Atheists, they are brilliant.
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6th July 2009, 10:09 AM
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Reps: 295,212,687,427,838,720 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by clirus My rant against the Left (Atheists and democrats) is necessary because Christians need to implement the truth of the Bible as much as possible.
No, it's because you think God is limited to the Republican party -- despite their abject failure to implement a single important Christian value. There is joy when people follow the commandments/doctrines of the Bible and there is suffering when people do follow the commandments/doctrines of the Bible.
Assuming this is a typo, why is it that you apparantly follow the Bible, and yet there's no joy in anything you write? Proverbs 29:2 says, "When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn."
I predict (dare I say prophecize?) That if anyone you considered "righteous" took power, we'd all be mourning -- including you. Neither Republicans nor Christians are perfect, but when compared to democrats and Atheists, they are brilliant.
And righteousness is relative, not absolute. Check.
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