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Unread 8th July 2009, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 King View Post
Holy_Bannana stated:

A man responded:

Google "Unam Sanctum 1302"

another man provided and excerpt from Catholic Doctrine:


is this true all you Catholics?
I put a few links up on this post earlier if thou art interested

http://www.christianforums.com/t7382741/#post52303483
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Having blotted out the handwriting in the ordinances that is against us, that was contrary to us.
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That thru the death He might take-away the one having the power of the death, that is the Devil


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so it "was" true, but they "Changed" it because of too much controversy?
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Originally Posted by 2 King View Post
so it "was" true, but they "Changed" it because of too much controversy?
"redefined."
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Originally Posted by Uphill Battle View Post
"redefined."
There seems to be a lot of that. The biggest tool in the Christian toolbox.... "RE-DEFINE".

Better to just be rid of it.

Did you hear the one about how many Orthodox Christians it takes to change a lightbulb?

Forgive me...
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CHANGE?!?!?

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Originally Posted by 2 King View Post
so it "was" true, but they "Changed" it because of too much controversy?
I would say most of the RC vs non-RCs [on top of the "Sabbath"] threads always tend to be "controversial".
You would be surprised at the amount of threads that were closed for "cleanup" and never reopened
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Having blotted out the handwriting in the ordinances that is against us, that was contrary to us.
And He hath taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
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Therefore then, the children have partaken of flesh and blood, and He in like manner did partake to the same.
That thru the death He might take-away the one having the power of the death, that is the Devil


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Holy_Bannana...

You're bait and trap thread succeeded.
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"That could well be considered a strength of the Roman Catholic Church which not all Christian churches have. Many of the others feel that not every last thing religious that a human can think up should be settled by an official action of the Church.

However, that strength--if is truly a strength--is the same one that is enjoyed by every cult. Certainty and unanimity are not virtues in this regard UNLESS the official position is the correct one."



Originally Posted by Holy_Bannana View Post
Here's where the difference comes in...
Since the Vatican is correct in it's belief.
Well, if that were true and everyone agreed to it, then of course your observation would be correct.

I have realized that it's strength can become it's ultimate downfall. If they fail to clarify their message, then confusion spreads throughout Catholicism in a worldwide effect.
Seems to me that even when the message is clarified, there is dissension. All that I've said is a strength--in response to another post--is that having the official word can be considered a strength, especially if we don't get into whether or not it is the correct word on the subject. OTOH, many people would not agree with me there, seeing this as religious tyranny and very dangerous.

For instance, Catholicism had to clear up the misconceptions of their theology back in the 16,000's. it took them more than 100+ years to get atleast 75% of it's theology clarified.
I think I see your point.
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Originally Posted by Albion View Post
Well, if that were true and everyone agreed to it, then of course your observation would be correct.


Seems to me that even when the message is clarified, there is dissension. All that I've said is a strength--in response to another post--is that having the official word can be considered a strength, especially if we don't get into whether or not it is the correct word on the subject. OTOH, many people would not agree with me there, seeing this as religious tyranny and very dangerous.
I'm curious, Albion, where do you look as an Anglican to clarify matters of morals and faith.

I ask this with all sincerity. Thanks.
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