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Old 4th July 2009, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwnerer View Post
I really don't see why the woman gets so much hatred. Really the vitriol she gets is bordering insanity. Democrat stooges are stooping so low as to bring frivolous ethics cases against her for things like wearing clothes with logos on them (an Arctic Cat jacket at a snowmobile race,etc) #1 so they can say "Look how entangled in ethics charges she is!!! Certainly with all those charges she CAN'T be a decent person!!" #2 Because they just hate her. Can't we accept that she's great at the state level, but just not cut out for Washington?
Insanity works for me, agenda driven insanity. Washington is broken, has been for many years. The fact that she is not a Washington type is the draw. She could make it work. Back in the 70's Washington went almost as crazy as today. 21 percent intrest rates and gas lines ended the madness. It's all about timing. We shall see. Off to a tea party!
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Old 4th July 2009, 01:10 PM
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I'd get fed up with deranged wackos that waste tax dollars filing fruitless ethics complaints against me, too.

Interestingly enough, this also frees her to act.
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Originally Posted by eldermike View Post
Insanity works for me, agenda driven insanity. Washington is broken, has been for many years. The fact that she is not a Washington type is the draw. She could make it work. Back in the 70's Washington went almost as crazy as today. 21 percent intrest rates and gas lines ended the madness. It's all about timing. We shall see. Off to a tea party!
lol

It is true she does not live in Washington, however that has not stopped her from doing her best to make Alaska her personal Washington.
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I think that Palin will try to go the Mike Huckabee route--get a show on the Fox News network and stay in the public eye every week until she can start running for President.

I think it's worked well for Huckabee--he has considerable charm, a great sense of humor, and a positive message. I don't watch Fox News, but I do tune in to Huckabee occasionally, and his show is a delight. He always ends playing bass guitar with some country music star or other and some other amateur musicians from the Fox News staff, shaped into a band called the Little Rockers.

He has parlayed his TV show into a three times daily radio address (a la Paul Harvey) which is every bit as charming.

(And I'm not a Republican.)

And he has some bestselling books to boot.

The candidate who was too compassionate a conservative for big business to take seriously will, I believe, be their front runner in 2012, because he knows how to use the media to his advantage and will have been in people's living rooms for four years--without having said the wrong thing once, just exuding charm, humor, and optimism.

I don't think this will work as well for Palin, because her charisma doesn't charm the opposition (as Huckabee's does.) It appalls them.

Huckabee can charm the moderates (because in many ways he is a moderate--much more moderate than the big business Republicans.)

Nevertheless, I think she will try the media route.
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I know Mike Huckabee, Mike Huckabee is a friend of mine, Palin is no Mike Huckabee.


(And no I don't know mike huckabee, i'm just channeling Bentsen.)
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I think that Palin will try to go the Mike Huckabee route--get a show on the Fox News network and stay in the public eye every week until she can start running for President.

I think it's worked well for Huckabee--he has considerable charm, a great sense of humor, and a positive message. I don't watch Fox News, but I do tune in to Huckabee occasionally, and his show is a delight. He always ends playing bass guitar with some country music star or other and some other amateur musicians from the Fox News staff, shaped into a band called the Little Rockers.

He has parlayed his TV show into a three times daily radio address (a la Paul Harvey) which is every bit as charming.

(And I'm not a Republican.)

And he has some bestselling books to boot.

The candidate who was too compassionate a conservative for big business to take seriously will, I believe, be their front runner in 2012, because he knows how to use the media to his advantage and will have been in people's living rooms for four years--without having said the wrong thing once, just exuding charm, humor, and optimism.

I don't think this will work as well for Palin, because her charisma doesn't charm the opposition (as Huckabee's does.) It appalls them.

Huckabee can charm the moderates (because in many ways he is a moderate--much more moderate than the big business Republicans.)

Nevertheless, I think she will try the media route.
That's an interesting thought, particularly since Palin's degree and initial work experience were in broadcasting. And if she is decent a reading a teleprompter and repeating what is recited in her ear, it would be a good way for her to appear more knowledgeable than she actually is about various issues. OTOH, you are correct that it increases her visibility and her risk of making gaffes on camera. I would have to think Fox would offer her a job if she had any interest.
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I'd get fed up with deranged wackos that waste tax dollars filing fruitless ethics complaints against me, too.
You know, a charge like that is how we get rid of bad leaders. Ethics charges are filed against people who have made questionable decisions while in office, often by appointing unqualified individuals. Without them, everyone could just fire everyone else in government and replace it with their friends and family. It's a means of checks and balances.

Interestingly enough, this also frees her to act.
How?
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Just another glaring example of Republican ineptitude in action!

Mark Sanford, who should resign, is hanging onto the governor's office by his Argentinian fingertips.

Sarah Palin, who doesn't have to resign, RESIGNS as governor in the middle of her term - under a cloud of mystery.


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You know, a charge like that is how we get rid of bad leaders. Ethics charges are filed against people who have made questionable decisions while in office, often by appointing unqualified individuals. Without them, everyone could just fire everyone else in government and replace it with their friends and family. It's a means of checks and balances.
From what I understand though, since the campaign, she's been deluged with baseless ethics complaints.

How?
She's a private citizen instead of a public official.
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I don't care what anybody says. I STILL think Michael Palin is the funniest Palin.
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