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2nd July 2009, 12:31 PM
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Why does it seem that so many fundamentalist Christians are against intellectualism? My father really looks down on universities and anyone who has a bachelor's degree or above. Of course my mom who is about to get her Doctorate in December is pretty upset (it's not that he's jealous, he truly looks down on higher education).
I've noticed this trend in many fundie conservativies both where I live and on this board. Is the fundie tactic to dumb down our generation with scientific illiteracy?
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Slug's 1st Law of YECism- Genesis 1-9 must be interpreted literally.
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Slug's 3rd Law of YECism- Make up any extra-Biblical claim, no matter how wild, to wave-away evidence in violation of the 1st Law.
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2nd July 2009, 12:59 PM
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Reps: 341,850,127,633 (power: 341,850,134) | | Originally Posted by BananaSlug  Why does it seem that so many fundamentalist Christians are against intellectualism? My father really looks down on universities and anyone who has a bachelor's degree or above. Of course my mom who is about to get her Doctorate in December is pretty upset.
I've noticed this trend in many fundie creationists both where I live and on this board. Is the creationist tactic to dumb down our generation with scientific illiteracy?
That isn't a tactic exclusive to creationists; undereducated people are malleable, controllable people... |
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One mindset seems to be to accept on faith, and that is a praiseworthy virtue. To question is a sin. Doubt is weakness. Changing your mind is death to the immortal soul. The devil is the one who generates any seemingly contrary information. Knowledge comes straight from the supernatural, not from hard work and study.
The other mindset is not like that. |
2nd July 2009, 01:05 PM
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Reps: 3,535,994,952,310,234,624 (power: 3,535,994,952,310,267) | | Originally Posted by BananaSlug Why does it seem that so many fundamentalist Christians are against intellectualism? My father really looks down on universities and anyone who has a bachelor's degree or above. Of course my mom who is about to get her Doctorate in December is pretty upset.
I've noticed this trend in many fundie creationists both where I live and on this board. Is the creationist tactic to dumb down our generation with scientific illiteracy?
LOL!!!! Broad brush anyone? Just because we don't believe as you do does not make a creationist any less intellectual than an evolutionist.
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Reps: 15,346,878,439,292 (power: 15,346,878,448) | | Originally Posted by Hentenza LOL!!!! Broad brush anyone? Just because we don't believe as you do does not make a creationist any less intellectual than an evolutionist.
True in that many creationists are very knowledgeable in other areas. |
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Reps: 15,346,878,439,292 (power: 15,346,878,448) | | Originally Posted by BananaSlug Why does it seem that so many fundamentalist Christians are against intellectualism? My father really looks down on universities and anyone who has a bachelor's degree or above. Of course my mom who is about to get her Doctorate in December is pretty upset.
I've noticed this trend in many fundie creationists both where I live and on this board. Is the creationist tactic to dumb down our generation with scientific illiteracy?
You have ommitted some important information. Are your parents both YECs? Is your father considerably less educated than your mother? If, so, does he perhaps feel a little resentful of her success, even if he has supported her in attaining it? |
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Reps: 341,850,127,633 (power: 341,850,134) | | Originally Posted by Hentenza LOL!!!! Broad brush anyone? Just because we don't believe as you do does not make a creationist any less intellectual than an evolutionist.
Its not about alignment of beliefs. Its about the willingness to maul mundane facts and observations in an attempt to get them to align with established religious notions; you cannot be intellectually dishonest, and an intellectual at the same time.
But yeah, anti-intellectualism is a broader conservative phenomenon, than it is something exclusive to the Christian fundamentalists... |
2nd July 2009, 01:29 PM
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Reps: 3,535,994,952,310,234,624 (power: 3,535,994,952,310,267) | | [quote] Originally Posted by atomweaver Its not about alignment of beliefs. Its about the willingness to maul mundane facts and observations in an attempt to get them to align with established religious notions; you cannot be intellectually dishonest, and an intellectual at the same time.
No one here is being intellectually dishonest but merely do not remove the supernatural from the natural. Abiogenesis is a forensic science not simply an empirical science.
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Reps: 3,535,994,952,310,234,624 (power: 3,535,994,952,310,267) | | Originally Posted by redwards No, indeed, it's that fact that they find creationism a worthwhile and convincing hypothesis that makes them less intellectual.
Your opinion.
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2nd July 2009, 01:31 PM
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Reps: 1,302,836,567,483 (power: 1,302,836,571) | | Originally Posted by Hentenza Your opinion.
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. 
As an aside, it's not difficult to demonstrate statistically that belief is inversely correlated with intelligence, but I suspect that's not a demonstration you'd be interested in seeing. | | |
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