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10th July 2009, 05:16 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Freodin  I ask YOU. I ask YOUR knowledge of the Bible.
Fair enough. Originally Posted by Freodin Do you deny that the Bible - your beloved KJV - tells us not to suffer a witch to live?
Yes --- It told those from the previous dispensation not to suffer a witch to live. Originally Posted by Freodin That is a rather absolute command, don´t you think?
Yes --- given at a time when Israel was probably under what we would call today 'martial law'. Originally Posted by Freodin So why does the infallible word of God fail to provide us with a method to FIND a witch?
Because 'we' are not on a witch-hunt like 'they' were.
Note how the witches were in hiding, and King Saul had to look hard to find the witch at Endor? Originally Posted by Freodin Do YOU think that the Salem Witch Trials were wrong?
Yes. Originally Posted by Freodin Not because your hindsight tells you so, but considering the knowledge of that time.
I wasn't there then, and I don't know how convincing these guys would have been.
I'm glad I wasn't.
And one thing's for sure --- you guys aren't going to rekindle 1692 by claiming that the Bible commands us to execute witches.
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10th July 2009, 05:27 PM
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Reps: 63,995,668,486,750,328 (power: 63,995,668,486,770) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET And one thing's for sure --- you guys aren't going to rekindle 1692 by claiming that the Bible commands us to execute witches.
I would be thankful if you stopped repeating this slander.
WE are not going to hunt witches by divine command... WE - atheists, unbeliever - do not believe that the Bible is authoritative.
WE might believe that the Bible commands it - but we do not follow Biblical commands.
SO STOP THAT!
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Reps: 56,734,881,133,185,528 (power: 56,734,881,133,195) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET That's the point --- it wasn't wrong at the time.
Which, by the way, was BC 1491 --- not [AD] '1600 - 1800'.
Consider that the 10 commandments say do not kill, and in the bible it says to kill, whats required is a specific line in the new testament to say witch killing is no longer right because it was still acceptable, nay required, to kill a witch in a day and age when killing was wrong.
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10th July 2009, 05:32 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Freodin I would be thankful if you stopped repeating this slander.
WE are not going to hunt witches by divine command...
No --- but you think we should --- don't you? Originally Posted by Freodin WE - atheists, unbeliever - do not believe that the Bible is authoritative.
That is why I include the disclaimer: If you ran the world like you interpret the Bible...
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Reps: 341,850,127,633 (power: 341,850,134) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET No --- but you think we should --- don't you?
Whatever gave you that foolish idea? |
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by MoonLancer Consider that the 10 commandments say do not kill, and in the bible it says to kill, whats required is a...
No --- what's 'required' is an understanding of Dispensation Theology.
You know what that is, don't you --- it's something you don't want taught in science class --- remember?
Here's a question for you (or anyone):
The Bible says to execute a witch --- the Bible also says not to kill.
Since we Christians are so 'uneducated and ignorant', how about someone here with an education show us how that prescription and that proscription can be legitimately reconciled.
(W/O ad homs, of course.)
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Reps: 110,182,959,778,071,968 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET Fair enough.Yes --- It told those from the previous dispensation not to suffer a witch to live.Yes --- given at a time when Israel was probably under what we would call today 'martial law'.Because 'we' are not on a witch-hunt like 'they' were.
Note how the witches were in hiding, and King Saul had to look hard to find the witch at Endor?Yes.I wasn't there then, and I don't know how convincing these guys would have been.
I'm glad I wasn't.
And one thing's for sure --- you guys aren't going to rekindle 1692 by claiming that the Bible commands us to execute witches.
Here is another thing for sure. Its YOU guys with the history of burning witches, not us.
We wont let you rekindle (good choice of words there) 1692, because, luckily, the chruch has lost the power to pull that kind of thing any more.
Witch burning is a church thing, not an atheist thing, so quit trying to put it off on us.. Its offensive and wrong, and its not going to work. |
10th July 2009, 05:58 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Hespera Here is another thing for sure. Its YOU guys with the history of burning witches, not us.
I agree --- and it was wrong --- and God will punish the wrong-doers for doing it too. Originally Posted by Hespera We wont let you rekindle (good choice of words there) 1692, because, luckily, the chruch has lost the power to pull that kind of thing any more.
I can't believe this was just solely a "church thing".
I'm sure --- just like Vioxx --- the government was in on it too. Originally Posted by Hespera Witch burning is a church thing, not an atheist thing, so quit trying to put it off on us.. Its offensive and wrong, and its not going to work.
Then don't try and incite us to do it by saying it's Biblically-correct to do so.
(Just wait --- this is gonna get worse --- I haven't even mentioned 'genocide' yet --- but I'm planning to as soon as this dies down.)
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Reps: 110,182,959,778,071,968 (power: 0) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET I agree --- and it was wrong --- and God will punish the wrong-doers for doing it too.I can't believe this was just solely a "church thing".
I'm sure --- just like Vioxx --- the government was in on it too.Then don't try and incite us to do it by saying it's Biblically-correct to do so.
(Just wait --- this is gonna get worse --- I haven't even mentioned 'genocide' yet --- but I'm planning to as soon as this dies down.)
Here is a better plan. Quit trying to put this whole witch thing off on innocent atheists who had nothing to do with it, dont want anything do with it, and dont go by a book that recommends it, pre or post dispensationlzation wise.
Its nice for you that you have a trick way of changing what the bible says to suit.
I think it would be just keen to leave it at that, esp if you would also quit slandering the innocent by claiming that we'd be out burning people. Or that I am trying to "incite" you or anyone else to do anything. |
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