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6th July 2009, 06:11 PM
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Reps: 1,302,836,567,483 (power: 1,302,836,571) | | Originally Posted by Catherineanne  
The Bible is morally neutral, like any other object. People can be generally absurd and abhorrent, but books can't.
First, I didn't call it an evil book, I called it absurd and abhorrent. Which is to say that the contents of it are both silly and grotesque.
Second, I think it's entirely fair to say that some of the things which are expressly condoned in the old testament would be identified as immoral by almost all of the population. I personally find some of the teachings of the new testament to be just as immoral, but I suspect that the ones I can think of off the top of my head would be too easily identifiable as Christianity for your average person to admit their immorality. |
6th July 2009, 06:13 PM
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6th July 2009, 06:13 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Split Rock Just for the record, is that your best argument for your assertion that The USA is a "Christian" nation?
"God did it" isn't good enough?
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6th July 2009, 06:14 PM
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Reps: 63,995,668,486,750,328 (power: 63,995,668,486,770) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET Then you can laugh at these as well:
Now that is taking literalism too far... even for you, AV.
Don´t you think that scanning the Bible for the terms "old" and crying "See? Embedded age!" should be even below your level?
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6th July 2009, 06:18 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Freodin Now that is taking literalism too far... even for you, AV.
Don´t you think that scanning the Bible for the terms "old" and crying "See? Embedded age!" should be even below your level?
Actually, the passage in 2 Peter jumped out at me in Sunday School yesterday when I was turning to look at another passage.
I jotted it down quickly, then brought it home and put it in my software for further reference.
The passage in Psalm 39 was a cross-reference to something that again, jumped out at me.
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6th July 2009, 06:22 PM
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Reps: 63,995,668,486,750,328 (power: 63,995,668,486,770) | | Originally Posted by AV1611VET Actually, the passage in 2 Peter jumped out at me in Sunday School yesterday when I was turning to look at another passage.
I jotted it down quickly, then brought it home and put it in my software for further reference.
The passage in Psalm 39 was a cross-reference to something that again, jumped out at me.
Ah, so the quoting of these verses were simply another unrelated derail from AV. Sorry to have bothered you.
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6th July 2009, 06:27 PM
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Reps: 9,223,372,036,854,775,808 (power: 9,223,372,036,856,908) | | Originally Posted by Freodin Ah, so the quoting of these verses were simply another unrelated derail from AV. Sorry to have bothered you. 
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6th July 2009, 06:30 PM
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I'd laugh if there was a point to those verses. |
6th July 2009, 06:30 PM
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Reps: 1,100,777,478,970,303,104 (power: 1,100,777,478,970,327) | | Originally Posted by redwards First, I didn't call it an evil book, I called it absurd and abhorrent. Which is to say that the contents of it are both silly and grotesque. Some of the contents are, certainly. And some are sublime. 
Second, I think it's entirely fair to say that some of the things which are expressly condoned in the old testament would be identified as immoral by almost all of the population. I personally find some of the teachings of the new testament to be just as immoral, but I suspect that the ones I can think of off the top of my head would be too easily identifiable as Christianity for your average person to admit their immorality.
Fair enough. As long as morality is a function of people, not of books.
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