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The Bible is morally neutral, like any other object. People can be generally absurd and abhorrent, but books can't.
First, I didn't call it an evil book, I called it absurd and abhorrent. Which is to say that the contents of it are both silly and grotesque.
Second, I think it's entirely fair to say that some of the things which are expressly condoned in the old testament would be identified as immoral by almost all of the population. I personally find some of the teachings of the new testament to be just as immoral, but I suspect that the ones I can think of off the top of my head would be too easily identifiable as Christianity for your average person to admit their immorality.
Now that is taking literalism too far... even for you, AV.
Don´t you think that scanning the Bible for the terms "old" and crying "See? Embedded age!" should be even below your level?
__________________ Hier sitz´ich, forme Menschen
Nach meinem Bilde,
Ein Geschlecht, das mir gleich sei,
Zu leiden, zu weinen,
Zu genießen und zu freuen sich
Und dein nicht zu achten,
Wie ich!
Actually, the passage in 2 Peter jumped out at me in Sunday School yesterday when I was turning to look at another passage.
I jotted it down quickly, then brought it home and put it in my software for further reference.
The passage in Psalm 39 was a cross-reference to something that again, jumped out at me.
Ah, so the quoting of these verses were simply another unrelated derail from AV. Sorry to have bothered you.
__________________ Hier sitz´ich, forme Menschen
Nach meinem Bilde,
Ein Geschlecht, das mir gleich sei,
Zu leiden, zu weinen,
Zu genießen und zu freuen sich
Und dein nicht zu achten,
Wie ich!
Just for the record, is that your best argument for your assertion that The USA is a "Christian" nation?
AFAIK, it's his only argument.
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Don't talk like one of them. You're not! Even if you'd like to be.
To them, you're just a freak, like me! They need you right now, but when they don't, they'll cast you out, like a leper! You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other.
See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve.
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Don't talk like one of them. You're not! Even if you'd like to be.
To them, you're just a freak, like me! They need you right now, but when they don't, they'll cast you out, like a leper! You see, their morals, their code, it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these... these civilized people, they'll eat each other.
See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve.
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First, I didn't call it an evil book, I called it absurd and abhorrent. Which is to say that the contents of it are both silly and grotesque.
Some of the contents are, certainly. And some are sublime.
Second, I think it's entirely fair to say that some of the things which are expressly condoned in the old testament would be identified as immoral by almost all of the population. I personally find some of the teachings of the new testament to be just as immoral, but I suspect that the ones I can think of off the top of my head would be too easily identifiable as Christianity for your average person to admit their immorality.
Fair enough. As long as morality is a function of people, not of books.
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