Originally Posted by Rhamiel
all Catholics are baptised with water and Spirit, baptism is an act of the Holy Spirit even if done to little children
Greetings Rhamiel,
There is no argument that everyone who is baptised in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit is baptized in both water and the Spirit. Catholics complete this Sacrament during Confirmation when we ask for a Fresh infilling of the Holy Spirit and we are annointed with oil and hands laid on us.
Baptism of the Holy Spirit in the Catholi Charismatic Renewal is not a Sacrament. It is very very simply,
pulling out the gifts we have already received, unwrapping them, examining them and then putting them to use.
It is also something else. During the classes for Confirmation and during the
rite, itself, we are only told about the Old Testament gifts. In the Charismatic Renewal, we are also taught the New Testament gifts. We believe they were also poured out on us when we received the Holy Spirit.